weird honeycomb pattern after plating

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weird honeycomb pattern after plating

Post: # 64468Unread post rcvinyl
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:27 pm

Hi Everyone
After being sent for plating, this kind of honeycomb pattern appeared on the outside of the lacquer. Has this happened to anyone? Although it is not very common, it happened once last year and once this year.
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Re: weird honeycomb pattern after plating

Post: # 64484Unread post Aussie0zborn
Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:57 am

Does this same pattern show up on the stamper?

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Re: weird honeycomb pattern after plating

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Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:21 am

Looks like sparking

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Re: weird honeycomb pattern after plating

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Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:31 am

yes show up on the stamper as well, only appear on the lead in area

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Re: weird honeycomb pattern after plating

Post: # 64515Unread post Aussie0zborn
Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:45 pm

Looks like “chicken feet” or “worms”. These usually show up in the lead-out groove area. It’s caused by organic impurities in the galvanic plating solution. A good carbon treatment will resolve that.

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Re: weird honeycomb pattern after plating

Post: # 64921Unread post Yasiek
Mon May 27, 2024 9:23 am

In addition to the organic contaminants you might suspect as a matter of course, check for two other things:
- do you have the right proportions of silver nitrate to reducer in the silvering gun (often, when there is too little silver nitrate, such things happen, although these traces are then much thinner - like a spider's web). In your photo you can see a dull glow on the matrix - perhaps it is the result of the silvering itself and wrong proportions in the gun as well as insufficient preparation of the laquer surface before silvering (the laquer was not sufficiently washed with a brush)... or laquer was to fresh.
- try to set a more aggressive initial current ramp, e.g. start with 20A, and step up to 40A in 6 minutes. You can test other ramps, even more aggressive ones (our guys started at 40A and it was ok), experiment, it may work differently for you.
The above helped us and the problem practically disappeared, now it only appears on 10" laquers (probably different current density and here you would have to work on the current ramp itself).

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