Which 1200/1210?

[PMST]

Hi!

I am new to cutting and going to get a T560, I have been researching for some time but one thing I can't seem to work out is whether certain 1200/1210's are better than others for cutting with the T560?

For example, a 90's 1200 I am looking at fully serviced by Technics, would this work or is there a better alternative? https://reverb.com/item/18456993-technics-sl-1200mk2-with-shure-m35x-cartridge

Are new models better for any reason? Mechanically I cant find any differences, but wondered if anyone with experience could help? I cant afford a SP10 or 15 so will be 1200 or 1210.

Thanks!

[e3sa934]

I understand that it’s the 1200/1210 mk2 that should be used

[handcut]

Looks good, though no mention of the platter. There's a lot of bad 1200's out there, especially the platters. Maybe from people carring them under their arms to parties or whatever. Runout on the platter can cause a lot of problems...

If you're going to spend that much, you might as well save a little longer for an SP10 mkii if you can. They do appear at sensible prices (circa £500) now and then!

[drdub]

Has anybody ever tried the new Technics 1200GR or even 1200G.

The GR is supposed to have a bit more torque than the old ones - so I guess it should work?

-dub

[Ciuens]

Has anybody ever tried the new Technics 1200GR or even 1200G.

The GR is supposed to have a bit more torque than the old ones - so I guess it should work?

-dub

Hi Dr. Dub,

is the same low torque of the SL1200 mk2. Little torque and very expensive. The only advantage I noticed in the Technics GR / G is the stability of the plate, perfectly aligned and with low noise.
I believe the new SL 1200 MK7 are the same thing too.

I did some tests with some Super OEM, the ones that had the best torque response so far were:
1 - Numark TT500 (yes, it has more constant torque than the TTX USB)
2 - Stanton STR8.150
3 - Numark TTX USB

I'd like to test Denon VL 12 Prime, but I'll have to buy one for that.

Cheers,

Ciuens Silva

ZEZ CUTTERS

[drdub]

According to Technics specs it should be:

torque (1.5 kgf·cm or 0.15 N·m for SL-1200MK2)
torque (3.3 kgf·cm for SL-1200G & SL-1200GAE)
torque (2.2 kgf·cm for SL-1200GR)
torque (1.8 kgf·cm for SL-1200MK7)

We had a Denon VL12 Prime in use here - it lasted for half a year then problems with the motor arised (not holding the 33rpm anymore, we are back on a 1200MK2 right now...)

-dub

[PMST]

Thanks for the help, so going by the past few replies, is there other turntables then like the Numark or Denon VL12 that might be a consideration rather than getting a cheaper 1200/1200?

[boryo]

According to Technics specs it should be:

torque (1.5 kgf·cm or 0.15 N·m for SL-1200MK2)
torque (3.3 kgf·cm for SL-1200G & SL-1200GAE)
torque (2.2 kgf·cm for SL-1200GR)
torque (1.8 kgf·cm for SL-1200MK7)

We had a Denon VL12 Prime in use here - it lasted for half a year then problems with the motor arised (not holding the 33rpm anymore, we are back on a 1200MK2 right now...)

-dub

Hey drdub,

is your SL1200MK2 modified with the Dub Cutter torque mod? If so, any issues with it?

Thanks,
Bob

[drdub]

Yeah we did the resistor mod multiple times now.
No issues on normal cuts - only when the blank is bent we have some wow.
We're in the process of fully converting to SP10s right now to avoid the 1210 problems altogether.

[boryo]

Thanks! I will not bother with mods then.

Best,
Bob

[jonty2k]

Has anybody ever tried the new Technics 1200GR or even 1200G.

The GR is supposed to have a bit more torque than the old ones - so I guess it should work?

-dub

Hi drdub, yes... I run a GR and there are no wow & flutter issues after doing this,
I did have to make new mounting feet for the VR as the recessses are not the same as a normal 1200 / 1210