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New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36645Unread post Bonati
Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:47 am

Couldn't believe my eyes:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SX74-SX-74-Made-in-Germany-for-VMS-70-80-82-NEUMANN-CUTTERHEAD-CUTTER-HEAD-Lathe-/121727574067?

Someone made this prototype but it sure as hell wasn't Neumann.

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36647Unread post tragwag
Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:54 am

saw that this morning, bummer
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36648Unread post Bonati
Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:55 am

Not to leave out this detail - this claims to be a copy. Who built this? Where did it come from? Why make a fake Neumann badge? If this is No.17 are there 16 more heads somewhere?

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36650Unread post ROLANDJAYS
Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:07 am

hmmm. Why don't people just say it's a replica. There's nothing wrong with replicas if they meet the original specs .

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36651Unread post studiorp
Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:09 am

Hmm, I suspect that this "head" has been built by Joanna, and probably the seller was a buyer time ago...

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36658Unread post Virtalahde
Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:46 pm

That's definitely a Polish head. The last pic with the text is from the old eBay listing.

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36659Unread post rsimms3
Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:18 pm

Interesting language about the sensitivity of the item and need for proper installation/use. Seems to be a built in defense if the head doesn't operate as described, blame the end buyer for improper use to defend against a PayPal claim of "not as described". If anyone needs a 10 foot pole, you're welcome to borrow one of mine.....

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36663Unread post opcode66
Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:28 pm

That is another Joanna Polinska head. I can identify at least 10 details that are in common with the other JP heads. Don't buy it!

The etched placard is the same. The ugly milling around the transducer covers is exactly the same. The push rods are constructed the same. Etc.

But man, those heating wire terminals. Of everything on all the heads, those are still by far my most favorite part. Nice work there.
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36664Unread post Bonati
Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:13 pm

So someone in the US actually bought a Joanna head and received it?

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36666Unread post opcode66
Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:30 pm

Possibly this is a hacked account. This person hasn't sold anything in over a year. In Maryland, huh? Hmmm
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36682Unread post EpicenterBryan
Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:48 am

Bonati wrote:If this is No.17 are there 16 more heads somewhere?
Or more... Here is Number 12, and number 25 from previous VMSpoland threads.
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36683Unread post Kris D
Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:43 pm

I saw one in LA at the studio of a well known Mastering engineer and cutterhead Guru. He bought it to see what was inside...at the time I saw it, a year or more ago, he had yet to open it up or test it.

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36686Unread post tragwag
Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:11 pm

the part that still kills me is why they claim it's a neumann?
why can't they just name it something else, and mention that it borrows that design?
we can tell by the look of it that it's modeled after the neumann anyway.
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36688Unread post opcode66
Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:38 pm

Becasue they aren't looking to fool us. They are looking to fool those who can't identify a difference.
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36695Unread post pandapolar
Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:25 pm

i got No. 45

which i STILL need to get to you Todd sorry :)
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36699Unread post mossboss
Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:19 am

Why than someonee with a USA ebay account does not report this item?
It is not an sx74 or a nuemann
It may save someone a lot of angst
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36704Unread post concretecowboy71
Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:52 am

I did report the item.

No action taken and my questions to the seller were not answered.
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36706Unread post fenrir19
Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:59 am

Hey pandapolar, you have this fake head, but is it work?
How is its frequency response?

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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36710Unread post concretecowboy71
Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:22 pm

I got a response from the seller:

Dear concretecowboy71,

I only know what I was told in the sale. Sorry. I hear some manner of doubt and will stand by it if a buyer follows the specs of an acceptable operational environment that's professional and not experimental. If you plug it into equipment with your other heads have worked well with and this one doesn't, then I'll take it back with a refund to you. It looks great to me but I don't have any other SX74's so I can't answer to a comparison to your SX74's. I'd it doesn't sell, I will likely pursue a recording system. Thanks for your query.

- hallmans

To me, this sounds like somebody that got stung buying one of these heads and is now trying to unload it. English seems too good for this to be out Euro gal/pal. I suggest others flag this listing to get it pulled before somebody actually buys this.
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Re: New fake Neumann SX74 on ebay (US)

Post: # 36819Unread post cpsmastering
Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:25 am

Just saw another one pop up in poland. Quite different looking from the others, and at least marketed as a "replika"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SX74-SX-74-CUTTER-HEAD-CLONE-REPLIKA-for-neumann-lathe-vms70-80-/171899474069?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

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