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eatree
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need any stylus

Post: # 24410Unread post eatree
Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:26 pm

Hi, i'm from Russia. Sorry for my bad english. I design a homemade lathe from old scanner. And i have some results. Today i have good low-noise groove made by a steel 78 RPM stylus with a self-made heating coil. But this stylus don't record sound. i think there is two main reason:
1) unsuitable stylus
2) not enough power of speakers
But i'm not sure. I need more experiments. And now i'm not ready to buy a new stylus.
So, if someone has any old or blunt stylus for stereo cutting, i may buy it for low price.

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Re: need any stylus

Post: # 24466Unread post vmspoland
Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:04 am

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Re: need any stylus

Post: # 24488Unread post Angus McCarthy
Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:03 pm

Hi, eatree, and welcome to the forum!

It's hard to say what might be the issue with your home-built lathe without knowing more. Did you build your cutter head yourself as well? If you are getting a quiet groove but no audio the issue probably lies with the head - not producing enough power to drive the stylus properly. You can cut/emboss stereo with a Standard (78) stylus, but the geometry will not be exactly 45-45, like with a microgroove stylus, so you might want to get your hands on a microgroove stylus anyway.

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Re: need any stylus

Post: # 24517Unread post eatree
Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:21 am

Here is my 45/45 selfmade cutterhead. I used a 3-watt speakers from a cheap sound system. Speakers are plugged in phase-inverted mode. I use the track from computer as a input signal. so I do RIAA correction in the program.
I stuck a steel rod to the center of each speaker in the epoxy. Needle holder is made of aluminum. there is also a rod attached to the V-shaped spring made ​​of thin steel. (I did experiments with v-shaped spring and without it. the same result). Heating coil is wound on a 78 RPM needle with ceramic sealant.

What do you think, what could be wrong?
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Re: need any stylus

Post: # 24518Unread post markrob
Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:32 am

Hi,

Looks like a nice job of construction. However, I think you have quite a bit of moving mass in your design. Given the large size of the drivers a the length of the members, you might be up against big losses in coupling the motion of the speakers to the stylus. You might want to measure the approximate resonance of your system by tapping the stylus holder and connecting one of the speakers to an oscilloscope or your sound card. You should see a damped sine wave with a frequency at your main resonance. If this is very low (e.g. below 400hz), you will not have good results. Also, to eliminate probles of phase, try driving only one speaker. Is you stylus constructed as an embossing device or are you actually cutting material?

Mark

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Post: # 24522Unread post opcode66
Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:42 am

I'm going to change my stylus soon. You can have my old one. PM me you mailing address.
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Re: need any stylus

Post: # 24585Unread post eatree
Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:12 am

markrob wrote:Hi,

Looks like a nice job of construction. However, I think you have quite a bit of moving mass in your design. Given the large size of the drivers a the length of the members, you might be up against big losses in coupling the motion of the speakers to the stylus. You might want to measure the approximate resonance of your system by tapping the stylus holder and connecting one of the speakers to an oscilloscope or your sound card. You should see a damped sine wave with a frequency at your main resonance. If this is very low (e.g. below 400hz), you will not have good results. Also, to eliminate probles of phase, try driving only one speaker. Is you stylus constructed as an embossing device or are you actually cutting material?

Mark
Thank you for your help. I am confused in the terminology, and do not fully understand what it means to "Embossing".

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Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:56 am

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Re: need any stylus

Post: # 24612Unread post eatree
Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:15 am

markrob wrote:Hi,

Looks like a nice job of construction. However, I think you have quite a bit of moving mass in your design. Given the large size of the drivers a the length of the members, you might be up against big losses in coupling the motion of the speakers to the stylus. You might want to measure the approximate resonance of your system by tapping the stylus holder and connecting one of the speakers to an oscilloscope or your sound card. You should see a damped sine wave with a frequency at your main resonance. If this is very low (e.g. below 400hz), you will not have good results. Also, to eliminate probles of phase, try driving only one speaker. Is you stylus constructed as an embossing device or are you actually cutting material?

Mark
it is embossing the device. So I'm trying to get the cutting needle to experiment.

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