Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
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Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
Neumann AM31 lathe and other equipment for sale on Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neumann-Vinyl-Record-Cutting-Lathe-Gotham-Amp-Grampian-Cutterhead-Lyrec-Motor-/141421130217?pt=US_Vintage_Pro_Audio_Equipment&hash=item20ed5b31e9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neumann-Vinyl-Record-Cutting-Lathe-Gotham-Amp-Grampian-Cutterhead-Lyrec-Motor-/141421130217?pt=US_Vintage_Pro_Audio_Equipment&hash=item20ed5b31e9
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Re: Neumann AM31 Lathe for sale on Ebay
Buy It Now for US $25,000 ??? I don't think so. It doesn't matter who owned it.
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Re: Neumann AM31 Lathe for sale on Ebay
Supply and demand...the market shall speak
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
I wonder what the reserve price is?
and when was it last working.
hopefully not sitting for long time........whatever
and when was it last working.
hopefully not sitting for long time........whatever
Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
well what would be a reasonable price? could this be set up to run VP and Stereo?
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
Well. You can't start a business with this lathe to compete with VMS70, VMS80 and Scully owners. You could compete with Presto owners but I don't know any Presto owners cutting masters for production use so it can't rally be used commercially today.
Al Grundy's last AM32B lathe was sold for US $5,000. This could be used to compete in the market with some add-ons. That lathe was sold with both the VA32 and VA62 controllers so you could set it up as either an AM32B or a VMS62 Special. This without head and amps.
So I would say this lathe is worth less than $5,000 and then add the value of the cutterhead and amp. I think it has more historical value than commercial value and would be nice in an audio museum if kept complete. After all, Bill Putnam was an audio legend.
Al Grundy's last AM32B lathe was sold for US $5,000. This could be used to compete in the market with some add-ons. That lathe was sold with both the VA32 and VA62 controllers so you could set it up as either an AM32B or a VMS62 Special. This without head and amps.
So I would say this lathe is worth less than $5,000 and then add the value of the cutterhead and amp. I think it has more historical value than commercial value and would be nice in an audio museum if kept complete. After all, Bill Putnam was an audio legend.
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
For say 20k I could get this retrofitted with an SX68+VG66 rack+ Neumann head suspension all rebuilt and working.
This still would not deal with the variable pitch issues. A Pitch13 could be your only option or cut fixed pitch/fixed depth.
The lathe to a collector should be worth around 10k.
I just like looking at it
This still would not deal with the variable pitch issues. A Pitch13 could be your only option or cut fixed pitch/fixed depth.
The lathe to a collector should be worth around 10k.
I just like looking at it
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
The lyrec motor alone can go for 5K.
They are including amp and head too. I figure about 2.5K for those items together and in working order.
I know people who would pay up to 3K or 4K just for the brass ring and chuck table.
So, that is 10.5K value right there. The other 10K value is in the lathe body, cabinet, and electronics. Not quite 25K. I think an extra 5K was just tacked on to the relative value I see represented here.
Pricey, yes. But, as was stated, this is completely determined by the current demand for such gear which is in very short supply.
They are including amp and head too. I figure about 2.5K for those items together and in working order.
I know people who would pay up to 3K or 4K just for the brass ring and chuck table.
So, that is 10.5K value right there. The other 10K value is in the lathe body, cabinet, and electronics. Not quite 25K. I think an extra 5K was just tacked on to the relative value I see represented here.
Pricey, yes. But, as was stated, this is completely determined by the current demand for such gear which is in very short supply.
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
That lathe was so ridiculously incomplete, and it went for 5,000. You can't compare incomplete prices to fully workingAussie0zborn wrote:
Al Grundy's last AM32B lathe was sold for US $5,000.
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
please someone click the buy it now button!!!!
cant look at this anymore
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
I wonder if the rug is included at the buy it now price.
Seriously though, just glad to look at the pics, such a nice looking thing.
Seriously though, just glad to look at the pics, such a nice looking thing.
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
And you can't start a business with this lathe as the seller suggests.powerstrip wrote: That lathe was so ridiculously incomplete, and it went for 5,000. You can't compare incomplete prices to fully working
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Re: Neumann AM31 Lathe for sale on Ebay
And the market spoke. Sold for US $11,101.00 Dietrich estimated that one nicely.powerstrip wrote:Supply and demand...the market shall speak
I didn't think it was worth $25K....
Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
I think they just stopped the auction. Doesn't mean it was actually sold...
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
I am sure an off ebay deal was made by someone who couldn't wait for it to end but not for quite 25k
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Re: Neumann AM31 Lathe for sale on Ebay
I put that bid on there.
the reserve never met.
the reserve never met.
Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
Again... The motor alone can sell for 5K.... 11 for all in this market is too low. I highly doubt that is how much it sold for.
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
him made an offer which he could not refuse
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Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
Oh so it wasn't sold for that amount?
Todd, how much would a custom made BLDC turntable motor cost? More than. 5k?
Todd, how much would a custom made BLDC turntable motor cost? More than. 5k?
Re: Ebay : Overpriced Neumann AM31 Lathe
Less than. However, that would not include the motor pedestal. I don't have a solution for that at the moment. So, I'm not sure what the total including that would be right now.
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