New auto pressing machines comparison

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New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby klikli_ska » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:24 pm

Hello folks!

How are you?

I hope this holidays were good to everyone and you could spend nice time with family and friends.

Beginning this 2018, we would like to start a topic about new auto pressing machines experiences and opinions. I'm talking about WarmTone (Canada), Newbilt Classic (Germany) and Pheenix Alpha AD12 (Sweden). I don't know if there's another new project.

I would like to discuss about everything you could know: from availability of spare parts for them to operational opinions, experiences, pros and cons, value for money, etc. Everything is welcome!!

Thanks in advance and take care, mates!!

Best wishes,

Kike
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Re: New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby Aussie0zborn » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:00 pm

Don't forget the AD12 made by Irmler, Germany.
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Re: New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby klikli_ska » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:46 am

Hi!

I didn't know it...do you have any video, picture or website link where it can be seen?

Thanks for the update, Aussie!

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Re: New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby Aussie0zborn » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:56 pm

I don't think anybody has experience with all these machines to be able to make the comparison you're looking for.

I would think anyone making new machines will also supply parts.

So now there a four companies making Toolex AD12 clones, while the fifth has generally stuck to an American design.

In any case, it's unlikely someone who buys brand "X" is going to tell you they bought the wrong machine.

Best to do your due diligence and find the supplier that is right for you.
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Re: New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby klikli_ska » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:34 pm

Hello!

Thanks for your reply. More than a competitive comparison or spare parts supplier, I'm looking more for a "description" or "knowledge" topic. I'm not looking for "the best pressing machine in the world" but experienced people who maybe had worked with this new machines and could talk about pros and cons between 3 or 4 column press; or differences on the automatic arms for labels, putting out records; extruder heating by steam or electricity...

I don't know if I'm explaining well, sorry...My english and expression capacity is very limited... :oops:

Thanks anyway for all your advices!

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Re: New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby peorag » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:55 pm

Hello,

The AD12 from Pheenix Alpha is the original Toolex Alpha AD12 machine, slightly modernized with new controller, new valves, new sensors etc. Pheenix Alpha acquired all assets from Toolex Alpha in 2006, including parts, tools, drawings and so on.
Unfortunately we haven’t had the time to update our website :cry: , the good thing is that it is due to high production pressure and focus on customer satisfaction.
Please check out the website of one of our customers for videos of the Pheenix Alpha AD12.
https://www.deepgrooves.eu/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWCS2K8zlWE

for the history watch the video from Makingvinyl 2017, start at 3:45 .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6xqL4UAtY

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Re: New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby salnikov » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:05 am

Hello Kiki.

Maybe not only looking at the quality of the machines, but also the reliability and the seriousness of the manufacturers about the after sales service ....
Pheenix Alpha looks very good on that side.
Many of my clients have bought a new Toolex and are very happy with it!
It seems correct to say that it is in the old cooking pots that we make the best dishes! :D
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Re: New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby vondeu » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:46 pm

I totally agree with Salnikov,

I mean, every machine has his pro’s and his con’s depending on: cycle-time, maintance, and the way you can experiment with different colours etc etc.

But for me is a well based business relationship and a fast response on urgent questions is the most important in starting a new pressing plant.

Do your research and plan a trip to more than one of todays builders/designers of record presses. Base your choice on the technical and practical side, but most important base your choice on the feeling that you have after talking with the builders and sellers of the company.

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Re: New auto pressing machines comparison

Unread postby untitledthe » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:13 am

How about the induction press from Italy? Is it taken in production? Heard there is being worked on a competitor..!
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