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JayDC huffing Helium

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:13 pm

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masters cut on a neumann seems to miss someting.. i dunno, maybe its just me, and my records..

not saying its junk or anything.. if people want it, they get it.. I just don't get it...

I want to use one for sure... it's like a Maybach, it looks dope..
generally its for reproduction.. but i like to play wif it sometimes.. :P

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:59 pm

LOL. Ok.
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Post: # 15757Unread post JayDC
Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:39 pm

i guess i ave weird ears..
generally its for reproduction.. but i like to play wif it sometimes.. :P

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Post: # 15765Unread post d1rk
Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:33 pm

HEY JAYDC are you JAY LENO from the TONIGHT SHOW? This post + the one about MASTERING ENGINEERS using a new STYLI for each record mastering job has me thinking you are a comedian!!! LOL ROFL!!!!! AWESOMELY FUNNY!!

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Post: # 15766Unread post JayDC
Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:50 pm

watever.. dat wat i was told, and it would justify the cost... don't shoot da messenger
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Post: # 15770Unread post opcode66
Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:21 pm

JayDC wrote:watever.. dat wat i was told, and it would justify the cost... don't shoot da messenger
Generally $300 total to cut master lacquers for a 12" release

Cost Breakdown:

2 x 14" Master Lacquers = $64
Stylus wear = $5 - 10
Reference dub (I usually use most of one side) = $6.5
Lacquer Mailing Box (used to send out cuts for plating) = $12
Shipping Charges for sending out cuts for plating = $15
Amortized Cost of Helium and tank rental = $5
Amortized Cost of various supplies = $5
Money saved to pay the tax man = $25

That leaves about $160 to cover studio overhead, initial investment in your lathe and mastering chain, electricity, part replacements, your time to do the vinyl transfer and maybe $20 in profit.

People who cut masters are not making fistfulls of dollars. We are barely making enough to keep thing working and turned on. I'm definitely not doing this for the $20 - $30 per cut that I'm profiting. I do it for the love of vinyl.

Oh yea, and that assumes everything works perfectly. If you get some dropped chip on your master that is a waste of $32 dollars. Also, if you do something stupid and mess up your stylus then you are actually paying for someone's release at that point.

Food for thought for those who do not cut professional master lacquers.
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Post: # 15777Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:13 am

if I was remastering classics for wat ever reason, especially using like a 100% analog lyrec system, i would use a new needle every time and inspect each one under a microscope prior to cutting the master. I kinna dun care if it would take more time, shit like that is important to me..

if I was lucky to get a lyrec in my home, and I have a similar income situation i have now, I would not.. costs kill great tings..

classics from TAPE... new needle every time..

juss sayin'
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Post: # 15778Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:20 am

and if the lyrec used a neumann system and not a westrex or ortofon system I wouldn't take the job.. I don't see the point in that.. its redundant..

if your going use a neumann, just use a neumann.. and a tape player..
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Post: # 15779Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:31 am

helium .. y?

I don't need helium to cut a loud record..

n2o would cool it faster, and could be more fun for the operator..
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Post: # 15780Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:40 am

if you wanted to keep your gases noble, argon could also do the trick..

I always like green gas lasers...

helium red is sort of a disturbing color..
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Post: # 15781Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:47 am

compressed AIR is the best solution.. imo..
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Post: # 15782Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:31 am

tbch.. I'm not exactly sure wat changing the gas would do..

if your using noble gases: each one is a color ;]

if some how the acceleration limiter was connected to some sort of feedback from da head, it's quite possible that you could change gases to resonate different frequencies.. as long as you don't invoke the dual resonance model.. wtf am i talking about.. :shock:
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Post: # 15783Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:56 am

you could maybe also try nitrogen since its inert, 2 of the same molecule, and it is in the visible light spectrum ..

I need to stop smoking weed for a while.. lol :oops:
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Post: # 15784Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:58 am

can I have a job now.. lol..
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Post: # 15785Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:08 am

green is wat people want.. my 2 cents..
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Post: # 15786Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:24 am

so, after careful consideration.. I would use a neumann, as long as we can stop using helium for a while.. lets try green.. :D

could make life sweet :D
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Post: # 15787Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:26 am

da record industry is going green, and we didn't even change to cfl light bulbs.. LOL :D
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Post: # 15788Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:37 am

wheres my peace prize for psycho acoustics..
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Post: # 15789Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:52 am

wikipedia wrote: There are several different reasons argon is used in particular applications:

* An inert gas is needed. In particular, argon is the cheapest alternative when nitrogen is not sufficiently inert.
* Low thermal conductivity is required.
* The electronic properties (ionization and/or the emission spectrum) are necessary.

Other noble gases would probably work as well in most of these applications, but argon is by far the cheapest. Argon is inexpensive since it is a byproduct of the production of liquid oxygen and liquid nitrogen from a cryogenic air separation unit, both of which are used on a large industrial scale. The other noble gases (except helium) are produced this way as well, but argon is the most plentiful since it has the highest concentration in the atmosphere. The bulk of argon applications arise simply because it is inert and relatively cheap.
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Post: # 15790Unread post JayDC
Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:28 pm

i'd use argon just for the fact that the money I saved from using it over helium I could use to purchase cigarettes..
generally its for reproduction.. but i like to play wif it sometimes.. :P

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