Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

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Re: Who know about this lathe machine? [Vanrock?]

Post: # 27955Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:14 am

And since that video has been set to private, sadly...

Here are a couple images of the Vanrock as the "Atom A-101"
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Atom A-101b.jpg
And the two models, side by side. Was the Vanrock e-101? (another thread here seems to indicate so)
Atom A-101f.jpg
Taken from this page, which also included a working video of the thing in action:

http://keiai1515.blog51.fc2.com/blog-category-5.html
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Re: Who know about this lathe machine? [Vanrock?]

Post: # 27956Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:18 am

A translation of that page:
http://keiai1515.blog51.fc2.com/blog-category-5.html

Roman travelogue

I will appreciate in the audio equipment of the time , the good old melody of Showa .
1980 's Atom recorder A-101 record - cutting machine
Record Cutting Machine
Atom recorder
Is the A-101.

The record also serves as a maintenance
I tried to create .

Atom recorder A-101
Atom recorder A-101
Record Cutting Machine

Record cutting machine portable
Record cutting machine portable
Business trip is a record made ​​possible

I do not use the valuable lacquer disc ,
I will substitute the " Prabang Tamiya " .
And is 1.2mm thick B4 size
EP panel will make two .
Plastic board that you have previously used a thin ,
Completion was FLEXI like .
Therefore, the plastic board slightly thicker this time ,
I was close to the record of normal .
Video ( lacquer disc recording
" Atom recorder A-101 "
In Google search possible )

Usual rubber belt
Because it had been stretched to the loss of strength
Replace .
(OK with a rubber band with the width a little )
It is shavings of plastic board also inside
Clean and because it contains .
If the fine adjustment of the rotation speed and lubricate
're Ready to go .

Atom recorder A-101 rubber belt drive
Instead of the tone arm ,
To accurately turntable itself
For causing the linear tracking
I found ingenuity

Atom recorder A-101 drive motor
Drive motor is large ,
Torque is also likely
Movement of the turntable ,
To the screw groove of the long bar
Of the slide table
I bite to some
The same way as the Edison phonograph

The feeling is completely recording -
Engineer .
Sound source you want to record is so CD,
Sound quality will be degraded clearly .
This is a " make-believe recording " .
Songs that are not analog record of ,
I will single cut from the CD.

Sakamoto Fuyumi from " Love Songs "
" Love "
A : ( Matsuyama Chiharu 1980 songwriting )
Was sampled .
Even the original Matsuyama Chiharu
But great ,
Also in the voice of women
It is the music that I wanted to hear .
Sakamoto Fuyumi ,
Woman's feelings delicate beautifully
Told me sings .

And record production process ,
Even the original Matsuyama Chiharu
I've recorded .

One more , Sakamoto Fuyumi same
From " Love Songs Ⅱ "
Was sampled .
1973 , hits princess and furniture
" Kanda River "
And (South snowfall Lyrics : Kita JoTadashi , composition ) ,
1975 , Kosaka Kyoko in popcon Yamaha
Song won the best song award
"Memories pillow"
A : ( Kyoko Kosaka songwriting ) ,
I was recording on both sides of the plastic board piece .

If you are listening to Sakamoto Fuyumi sings " Kanda River " ,
All man audited ( uncle ) ,
In a small boarding house of one between the Triassic ,
Such as living with Sakamoto Fuyumi
You will be Fukurameru the image .
You will want to living in poverty .
(If about a week ...)

"Memories pillow" is ,
The refreshing like Sakamoto Fuyumi
It becomes the youth Enka .
The power of a professional enka singer just
It is a song that makes you feel .

It should be noted that , as a playback machine
And Diatone X-1000
I've used the national SG-501N.


Record produced in atom recorder
The producer of a phonogram the atom recorder A-101

Sakamoto Fuyumi original record and Matsuyama Chiharu album
Matsuyama Chiharu album
Sakamoto Fuyumi plastic board record

Prabang record recording Sakamoto Fuyumi
Plastic board record
Sakamoto Fuyumi Kanda River / Memories pillow

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1980 's Atom recorder A-101 lacquer disc recording
Record cutting machine
In ( Atom recorder A-101)
Were made in order to record
I have to get the lacquer disc .

In Japan today ,
The lacquer disc LP of board size
There are companies that manufacture ,
It does not make the thing of the EP board size ,
It is very rare disk .
Only lacquer disc of EP board size
Can not be cutting
Atom exists recorder
When I had been around in the market ,
Because you should have purchased ordinary course ,
I is probably a dead stock product of that time .

Previously , as a substitute for lacquer disc
Turn off the EP board size plastic board ,
I recorded experiment .
( Blog this ' Cutting Machine "
In I can be searched )
Can withstand the appreciation well with plastic board
Although sound quality was obtained ,
In lacquer disc of original
Do you become what I feel ,
There was very interested .
So I tried to record the experiment immediately .

The lacquer disc
On the front and back of the plate of thin metal
Spraying lacquer ,
Are mirror finish .
The somewhat heavy than normal vinyl records ,
When you close the nose
The smell of lacquer will .

Many times in the plastic board
I had been cutting ,
I started recording in the same sense .
Then , is a soft shavings in a moment
Around a stylus that is heated
The entanglement , I gained the sky white smoke .
With a brush in a hurry
Although we attempt to try to remove ,
Lacquer that was melted down to the panel board Potatto
I have stuck .

That the more soluble than the plastic board is to watch out .

In addition , needle pressure in quite severe ,
To the metal of the base pressure is too much
Needle will enter ,
Caught
You will not be able to cutting .
Pressure is too weak of course
Can not be cutting .
You must have a subtle prescription .
It is the practice in the lacquer disc failed .

When I touch it with bare hands for a while ,
Irregularities fingerprint firm
That would come with
A soft lacquer disc is ,
I realize that something delicate equivalent .

Disk still was completed ,
Sound quality similar to the recording material ,
The level that can withstand enough appreciation
It had become the record .
At the time, Ya people who play an instrument yourself
And people who like the song ,
By creating a record of the original
It will be to was enjoying .
If you stick stick to make a PC label ,
Records and commercially available
Distinguish will not tell .

Recording experiments ,
My daughter is at the elementary school two years as a material
I was singing in the karaoke
Use the " feelings in Love " Seiko Matsuda ,
External input from MD
Enter the atom recorder
Was cutting .
( Father proverbially foolish is aware )

The " feelings in love " is
Seiko Matsuda is in 1998
And dentists younger
At the time of the marriage of the second time ,
Album full of happiness
It is collected in the " Forever " .
I would just love song of drunk ,
It is a favorite album of mine .


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1980 's Atom record cutting machine atom recorder
Of the atom 's
Record cutting machine
Atom recorder
Is the A-101.

Rock of Van , which was introduced this before
In melon and two cutting machine ,
The color of the recording level meter
Sticker of model name is simply different.
In a completely different company , and I get such a thing
Because will have sued ,
In the same company ,
Did you change the name for export and for domestic ,
But the atom 's van from the company simply lock
Do it only changed its name ,
Company name of either
Do not hit the Google search ,
Details are unknown .

Although initially , around the turn table ,
I did not move at all slide .
That is,
As cutting machine
It is a fatal defect .
I was available at 810 yen for it.

Van locking
I was going to be to take part .
Surprisingly body ,
It was almost unused very beautiful .
As soon as it no longer normal operation
Seems to have already shelved .
This is a chance to show the arm .

And continue to scrutiny
Drive belt only are missing ,
I've found that no problem afterward .
Thus in one small rubber band
I revived fully operational products .

Immediately, I started to want to record .
This time, the plate of thin plastic model
Was cut into a circular shape ( plastic board ) ,
I've used as a substitute for lacquer disc .
Surface smoothness is the very ,
Hardness is also just right ,
Also needles cutting machine
Some cases it may be near the new ,
Disk The finished
It had become a perfect record .
I can tolerate the appreciation enough if it is this .
Although we created five or six at once ,
It was all good .

The original record
It does not make sense you must create ,
Shamefully ,
I sang karaoke as a sample
"Like in the days of kid "
( 1988 , hits Horiuchi Takao )
I will listen to .

Playback player
Quartz lock Victor
Turntable is QL-Y44F.
In such a delicate player
Being able to play ,
It is cutting with high accuracy
Is evidence .

It is a long-cherished debut record .



Art "繝医Β繝~Ya繧U繝Shi繝




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1980 's van lock record cutting machine
Van Lock
Record cutting machine
Is (Vanrock Recorder).

7 inches ( 17 cm )
Of singles -only ,
Is a cutting machine .

For the analog record fan
The ultimate longing ,
It is a record of original
It is to make your own .

Even now , of course ,
The original record
There are companies that are build-to-order manufacturing ,
Little price seems to be all right again .
That said ,
Cutting machine for personal
Of that ownership is still expensive .
The new ( Vestax
Cutting machine is 1.24 million yen )
So , I was active once
And established a cutting machine of portable ,
We decided to enjoy the atmosphere .

Record of cutting van lock
Machine is only monaural recording ,
Of singles easily auto function
I can prepare a record .

And record player normal
In about the same size ,
It is the design of portable firm .
With a business trip here and there surely
Do we have to prepare a record .

Originally ,
Dedicated disks called lacquer disc
How can I encode the cutting ,
But are not limited to, the seven inches in domestic
Because not manufactured ,
Hobby stores and home centers
I was looking for a substitute .

Such as underlay and acrylic plate
Variously trial and error ,
Of 100 yen shop after all
To B4 hard card case
Was calm .
And it is this ,
Because there is a space of two pieces of donut ,
You can make a total of four pieces .

After putting a little silence at the beginning ,
I will start recording .
Needle tip of the cutting machine
Is heated by the heater ,
I am easy increments disk .
While the cake is cut look see
Will continue to accumulate .

On a disk that is the finished ,
Minor groove is carved indeed .
When I actually played ,
Scratch noise while large ,
The original record unquestionably
Had become .
Pleasure to make your own ,
I was able to taste enough .

As a sample , a daughter at the age of seven ,
I sang karaoke with me
" True Love Story "
Seiko Matsuda and ( Hiromi
The song became a hot topic in duet )
I have recorded .
( Father proverbially foolish is aware )
Playback player
National , which was introduced earlier
Is SG-503N.



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Re: Who know about this lathe machine? [Vanrock? maybe not.]

Post: # 27957Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:29 am

Studiorp, could this thing be the Diskll FS Matsusho? You mention it in a couple other threads, but unfortunately none of the photos are available any more. Can you repost them?

A hint, by the way....

One will get more google results if you post these things in Japanese

Atom A-101 is : アトム a-101

Atom recorder A-101: アトムレコーダーA-101

Vanrock ("vanlock") バンロック

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Re: Who know about this [Japanese] lathe machine?

Post: # 27958Unread post lucien
Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:43 am

Here is a link with two pictures of the matsusho : http://www1.pbc.ne.jp/users/hmv78rpm/page101.html

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Re: Who know about this [Japanese] lathe machine?

Post: # 27959Unread post studiorp
Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:52 am

Thanks Lucien, yes Steve, are the same photos that I had years ago.
I had only these, no other at the moment.

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Re: Who know about this [Japanese] lathe machine?

Post: # 27960Unread post lucien
Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:27 am

You're welcome :)
Cosmetically rather closed to this one by the way : http://blog.goo.ne.jp/vrc-tezuka/e/8aa06cb659f2f805cecb48b154ba9384

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Re: Who know about this [Japanese] lathe machine?

Post: # 27962Unread post studiorp
Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:20 am

Wonderful lathe, remember a little mine....

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Summary: Japanese Portable Lathes 1970s レコードカッティングマシン

Post: # 27963Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:35 am

VERY close, I'd say. Thank you VERY much, Lucien! Where do you find these things?

Wow. So there was a whole fad of portable record cutters in Japan, going up to 1980 or so.

Summary: Japanese Portable Lathes 1970s-1980s レコードカッティングマシン


To summarize. We now have examples of 5 different ones:
*The Vanrock E-101/Atom A-101. It cuts 7-inch "EP" records, at two speeds, and the turntable moves instead of the cutter-head: http://keiai1515.blog51.fc2.com/blog-category-5.html

*The DiskLL FS Matsusho (or DiskII FS Matsusho): http://www1.pbc.ne.jp/users/hmv78rpm/page101.html
*The Disk Recorder oll AU70-17-C : http://blog.goo.ne.jp/vrc-tezuka/e/8aa06cb659f2f805cecb48b154ba9384
Then there are two models with an overhead travel mechanism:
*The one owned by Yard Studio Japan, as shown in that video. It has one VU meter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ8Sv-yjI5k
*The one owned by our user Godz, as seen at the beginning of the thread. It is similar, but it has two VU meters.

And then, lastly, much later, the idea reverberated in the Vestax VRX-2000 Vinyl Cutter. I wonder about the relative quality of the various devices.

EDIT: And, as seen later in the thread, this very mysterious "stereo" (could be!) lathe of unknown vintage. Looks to be called a "Model JK-300s" or "Model IK-300s" from this painfully tiny picture. http://www.acidmothers.com/Cgi-bin/magz/jt/jt047/ It is similar to the Godz and Yard Studio ones in that it has an overhead mechanism. You can see threads of a feed screw, which stop halfway across the transport.

The pictures of the Disk Recorder oll AU70-17-C are notable because they confirm what Godz is saying: There is an input for line and an input for mic. There are also some strange controls that I'd expect to find on a tape recorder: FF ("Fast Forward), and "Back." They probably control the cutting arm. It looks like a lever says "Recording" on one side and "Stop SW" on the other. I'm guessing that lifts the cutterhead? what is "SW"?

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Re: Who know about this [Japanese] lathe machine?

Post: # 27964Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:35 am

studiorp wrote:Wonderful lathe, remember a little mine....
Did you have one of these???

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Disk Recorder (レコード カッティング マシーン) oll AU70-17-C

Post: # 27965Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:56 am

Since these pages have a habit of disappearing over the years, I want to translate and archive them here. I hope the author of this page will not mind and will even join us here.

I switched the order of the pix a little based on my subjective priorities. Obviously, the Google Translations are sometimes inaccurate and will require a little extra work to decipher.
Here is the original link:

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/vrc-tezuka/e/8aa06cb659f2f805cecb48b154ba9384

Disk Recorder (レコード カッティング マシーン) oll AU70-17-C ?
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[note the "recording" position in place in this picture compared to the picture above. --SE]
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今日お預かりした2台目はレコードのカッティング・マシーンでモーターから周期的な音と異音が出ている。
またFF等でアームを移動させることは出来るが実際にカッティングを行う位置でアームが移動しないと云
うお話だった。  この種の装置の修理に付きましてはこちらの HP http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~cac55760/
らお問い合わせ下さい。
Second one that was entrusted to us today have come up with noise and periodic sound from the motor in the cutting machine of record.
You can also be made ​​to move the arm in FF etc. cloud arm is not moved in position for the cutting is actually
Was Uohanashi. Or HP http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~cac55760/ of this place I am assigned to the repair of this type of device
Luo please contact us.
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アームの移動は下の画像左上に見えているモーターで行われる。 次いでトラックを削って行く際の移動は
見えているボール・スクリューで行われるがこの為のエネルギーはターンテーブルの回転と連動している茶
色のプーリーで伝えられる。 つまりターンテーブルが回転しないとこのプーリーは(アームも)動かない。
Movement of the arm is effected by a motor which can be seen in the top left image below. Then move at the time of going to cut the track
It is performed in a ball screw that is visible is the energy for this tea that is linked with the rotation of the turntable
I carried in the pulley of color. (That is also the arm) does not move this pulley turntable is not rotating.
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モーターのドライブ・シャフトに当たっているゴム・プーリー(ローラー)は既に硬くなっており、また永年シャフト
が当たっていた部分が若干凹んでおり周期的な音の原因となっている。
The shaft many years, has become hard already (roller) rubber pulley is hitting the drive shaft of the motor
It caused sound cyclic moiety has hit is is recessed slightly.
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手元に幾つか在ったゴム・プーリーの内、真中の物が略同一サイズではあったがシャフトを通す穴径が小さ
く残念ながら使えなかった。 仕方無く適当なゴムベルトを巻き接着剤で固定した。
Of the rubber pulley had some on hand, those in the middle there were in substantially the same size, but diameter hole through which the shaft is small
I could not use while Ku shame. Were fixed with an adhesive wound a suitable rubber belt reluctantly.
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ターンテーブルは回転する様にはなったが異音は可也大きい。何処に原因が在るのか中々見付からなかっ
たがターンテーブルの高さが低く、上の面に擦れて異音が出ていることが分かった。  ならば少し上に上げ
ればとフェルト・ワッシャーの下に0.5mm程の鉄製Cリングを嵌めてみた。 結果それでも足らず上にワッシャ
ーを3枚重ね好結果を得た。
It was such that the turntable rotates, but noise is fairly large. In each and not found in the cause or where there
It was found that that is the height of the turntable is low, abnormal noise have come to rub against the surface of the upper. If raised to slightly above
I tried to fit the C-ring of steel about 0.5mm under the felt washer and lever. Result still less than the washer on
To obtain a good result and the three sheets over the.
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実際に一連の動作を確かめてみたが良好に動作してくれた。 (中央部分でキチント終わり、自動的にスタ
ート位置に戻って停止した) ゴム・プーリーの直径が若干大きくなった分、多分数%速度が落ちているハズ
だが幸い各回転数は微調整可能なのでストロボ・スコープを使えば合わせ込むことが可能と想われる。
I tried to check a series of operations in practice, but it was me to work well. End tidy (central portion, register automatically
Minute you stop back to over To position) the diameter of the rubber pulley is slightly larger, Husband rate is down a few percent maybe
But it is yearn it possible to push to put it together if I use the strobe scope each rotation since the number of fine-tunable Fortunately.
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Re: Retitled: Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

Post: # 27966Unread post lucien
Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:05 pm

Steve E. wrote:Thank you VERY much, Lucien! Where do you find these things?
I've just typed "analog cutting machine" in japanese in google image ( アナログカッティングマシン ).
Have a look by yourself, I'm sure you will notice something else interesting. Don't hesitate to click on more results at the bottom :)

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Re: Retitled: Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

Post: # 27967Unread post studiorp
Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:24 pm

No Steve, unfortunately I haven't nothing Japanese lathe, but if you see the photo of mine, there are some similarities about the motor and the other electronic parts, only this.


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Post: # 27969Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:53 pm

This is a translation of the one page currently devoted to the
Diskll FS Matsusho (or maybe it's the Diskii FS Matsusho).

I found one postage-stamp-sized picture of this model with a lid:
Diskll FS Matsusho.jpg
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As Studiorp points out, the controls on these various devices are quite similar. I would so love one of our experts from Japan to weigh in on the history of these devices. In a way, with their hidden feed screws, they remind me of the Wilcox-Gay Recordios of the 1940s, updated for microgroove records. They are sort of perfect for a certain kind of member of our forum, and it is too bad they don't seem to be more prevalent.

http://www1.pbc.ne.jp/users/hmv78rpm/page101.html
SP盤的文献紹介
レコードカッティングマシン
SP board literature introduction
Record cutting machine


NEWSでお知らせの通り、カッティングマシンを入手しました。
動作未確認のジャンクでしたので、果たして生きているかどうか心配です。

早速、手元にあったタミヤの透明プラ板0.4mmtを丸くハサミで切って生ディスクを作り
ました。

果たしてこんなもので音が刻めるのでしょうか?
Lineに接続し、入力レベルを調整し録音開始。
As the announcement, I have to get the cutting machine in the NEWS.
Because it was junk operation not yet verification, I am afraid to see if it is really alive.

Immediately, to create a raw disk by cutting with scissors rounded transparent plastic board 0.4mmt of Tamiya was at hand
Directly below.

Sound or would Kizameru in these kind of things really?
Connect to the Line, start recording and adjust the input level.
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とてつもない量の切り屑が出ました。
針先にまとわりつくこと尋常な量ではありません。
Chips of the tremendous amount came out.
Not [note?] the amount of plaque that is clinging to the needle tip.
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音は刻まれているのでしょうか?
顕微鏡で観察すると
Sound or do they carved?
When viewed under a microscope
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お~おっ、確かに刻まれています。
では果たしてその音質はいかに....
Oh you ~, It is carved certainly.
In the sound quality is really how. . . .
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Re: Retitled: Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

Post: # 27970Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:17 pm

Brilliant. do searches of "Record Cutting Machine": レコードカッティングマシン

Using Lucien's suggestion, I found yet another one. Stereo. WTF??? seems to be a post from 2001, which eventually talks about Vestax.
『人声天語』
第47回「ビニルに刻む夢」

* * * * *
先日、ネットオークションにてダイレクト・カッティング・マシーンを発見。
"Human voice heaven words"
"Dream engrave on vinyl," 47th

* * * * *
The other day, I found a direct cutting machine at an Internet auction.
http://www.acidmothers.com/Cgi-bin/magz/jt/jt047/
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これは勿論、アナログ盤を自宅で製造出来ると云う代物に他ならない。レーベル共同経営者の東君に早速相談したところ、落札を狙う事が即決。何しろ1枚からLPが作れるのである。夢のような話。勿論これなる機械の存在は知っていたし、かつて山崎マゾ氏もモノラルのアセテート盤カッティング・マシーンを所持していたと聞いていた。たとえアセテートであれ30cm盤を自宅で作れるなら、CDなんぞと云うおもちゃのようなフォーマットでなく、これまたレーベルの可能性も膨らむと云うもので、取り敢えず10万円辺りの額面で入札。我々の長所であり短所である処は「金は何とかなる、若しくは落札後に何とかしよう」と、一度狙えば金勘定は一切後回しな処である。オークション終了時間が、トクゾウで正午なりとライヴを行っている時間である為、いつものように落札する為の姑息な策謀が使えず、兎に角大丈夫であろうと思う額面を入れておく事しか出来ぬ。後はただただ運を天に任せるのみ。
This is none other than the stuff that you say of course , that it can be produced at home the analog board . As a result of consultation immediately to the east of Mr. Label co-owner , that aim at successful bid prompt decision . It is can make the LP from one anyway . A dream come true . I have heard knew the existence of this machine which is of course , Mr. Yamazaki masochist also had been in possession of the acetate panel cutting machine mono once . If you can make at home 30cm board any acetate example, by way of say , not a format like a toy to say the Nanzo CD, the possibility of label also swell this also , bid at par value of 100,000 yen around for the time being . " Kim will somehow , or to try to find a way to do it after a successful bid ," said processing is a disadvantage is an advantage of we are processing all put off a gold account you should aim once . Only be to put a face value I think because it is a time of the auction end time , have done live and will noon Tokuzou , Kosokuna machinations in order to bid as usual is not available , would be anyway okay not to be . The only leave luck to heaven nothing but the after .
さて愈々ライヴから帰宅し、結果をチェックしてみれば何と落札出来ておらぬ。「何ィ~っ」と落札金額を見てみれば、我々の入札額面の倍額以上である22万4千円。これでは致し方あるまい。我々の読みが完全に甘過ぎたと言うか、世の中には同じような物好きが、あと5人は居たと云う事である。されど一度膨らんでしまった夢は、そう簡単には萎められぬ。では、仕方ないので「あれ」を買うか。

「あれ」とは勿論、Vestaxがその技術を結集して作り上げられたと云われるVRX-2000である。 Well what an unexpected yet made ​​a successful bid to return home from live people more and more, if you scratch the surface check the results. If you look at the highest bid as "what Tze Tsu ~", 220 004 one thousand yen is more than double amount of the tender face value of us. It will not be be helped in this. It is that you say reading our sweet it was over completely, it refers is curious similar, after five and stayed in the world. Saredo dream that had inflated at a time, not to be deflated so easily. So, you buy a "that" because it can not be helped.

It is VRX-2000 that is said of course, and built up Vestax is bringing together the technology and "that".
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Re: Retitled: Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

Post: # 27971Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:32 pm

A Tomy toy that was a record cutter:

http://tasteedisco.seesaa.net/article/331913637.html

そんなアナログレコード大好きな人には面白いもの見つけました。
おもちゃのTomyで昔売っていたらしい、カッティングマシンです。
I found something interesting for people to love such analog record.
It seems to have been sold a long time ago in a Tomy toy, is a cutting machine.
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当時は高くて全然売れなかったみたいですが、再発したら売れそう?
It is high and seems to have been never popular, but does seem to be popular in those days if it recurs?
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普通はボールネジって言うものを利用して旋盤と同じ要領でネジの溝にそってカッティング針(ヘッド)が移動して行きますが
これは、青いヘッドの内側の針が盤の内側の白い円盤に刻まれた溝をなぞって行き
外側のカッティング針が実際に黒い円盤に音を刻んで行くっていう構造です。
どんな音がしたんでしょうかね?
Cutting needle (head) is, but will continue to move along the groove of the screw in the same manner as the lathe by using what I say ball screw is usually
This went scratched the grooves in the white disk of the inside of the board of the needle within the blue head
It is a cutting needle structure of outer Tteyuu go chopping sound to disk actually black.
[or "Is called outer cutting needle actually go ticking on a black disk structure."]
What kind of sound it, how it was?
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Re: Retitled: Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

Post: # 27972Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:45 pm

Another page with the Atom A-101 aka Vanrock. This one seems to be in a non-portable desktop:

http://kolam-susu.blogspot.com/2010/12/blog-post_11.html
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(((レコードカッティングマシン)))
●●●サラムアレイコム!!!!!!!!!!!●●●

ワタシのレコードカッティングマシーンはもともと中途半端なポータブルスタイルであり!!!!!!!!結構(((ナシ)))なデザインに加え、ポータブルゆえに落ち着かなかったので!!!!!!!!特製ヤバイ木箱にCHECK INしてデスクトップスタイルにした上!!!!!!横に(((小物入れ)))まで付いたばりヤバな愛マシンにチューンナップ!!!!!!!!
コレがソレ~~~~~!!!!!!!!!

(((Record cutting machine)))
● ● ● Salam array com!!!!!!!!!!! ● ● ●

Is a half-baked originally portable style record cutting machine of me!!!! In addition to the design (((none))) very well, because I did not settle in portable because!!!! Special did on the desktop style by CHECK IN to dangerous wooden box!!! can tune up the love machine burr Yaba you with up to (((accessory case))) next!!!!
Kore Sole ~ ~ ~ ~ ~!!!!!

(Maybe this is the store it was found in?
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Re: Retitled: Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

Post: # 27973Unread post Steve E.
Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:58 pm

A Vanrock E-101 was auctioned this year. Looks like it went for cheap?

http://auction.rakuten.co.jp/item/12000924/a/10000001/
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EDIT: Here is Lucien's summary of what follows:

These three pictures come from an auction (rakuten).It is an Atom Recorder (Vanrock Recorder) E-101, model of 1984/1985. It was sold for 5000 yen (1 bid) on 2013/09/28.

From what the auctioneer can remember, this kind of product was developed to provide a service for recording voices in places like Karaoke.
It is also possible to record from tape. It can only handle 7" blanks.
The recording is done in MONO. It is possible to choose between 33 and 45RPM
The seller says that it needs lacquer discs but it's hard to find nowadays. It's possible to use plastic sheets instead.
It is possible to see videos of an atom recorder in action here : http://keiai1515.blog51.fc2.com/blog-entry-253.html
(note from lucien : a 19minute video where you see the cutting process and another one shorter)

(note from lucien : the following information are probably not essential : regarding the item state, the seller said that it powers up and turns but couldn't check if it was able to record.
probably a new belt was needed. Provided with power cable, stereo to mono audio cable, spare needle. No user manual. Beautiful item. No claim no return. Well it can explain the low price at least)


Steve E here again. So Lucien, I am guessing that what Google translates as "needle exchange" is actually "spare needle"? But what is "※ apparently , there is no dirt in particular wound ." Is that supposed to be "Beautiful item"?? :D (In the United States, "Needle Exchange" is a disease-prevention program for heroin users.)


レコードカッティングマシン アトムレコーダー E-101
Record cutting machine Atom recorder E-101
現在価格
5,000円

このオークションは終了しました

落札者リストは こちら

残り時間
終了

2013年09月28日 10:40 終了 (自動延長あり)

入札数
1( 入札履歴を見る )

( 落札候補者: エスピーアイさん )

商品状態
中古

商品詳細
□商品名:アトムレコーダー(Vanrock Recorder) E-101 □年式:1984年~1985年 □一般の方には、何 ...

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開始時間
2013年09月14日 10:40

開始価格
5,000円

入札単位
250円

値下設定
なし

消費税
税なし (個人出品物のため、消費税はかかりません。)

商品番号
10000001
Present price
5,000 yen

This auction has ended

Successful bidder list is here

Remaining time
End

10:40 ending September 28, 2013 I (with automatic extension)

Number of bids
(I see the bid history) 1

(Successful candidate: Espy's eye)

Product Status
Used

The product details
□ Product name: Atom recorder (Vanrock Recorder) E-101 □ year: For those of 1985 □ general in 1984, what ...

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Question
Questions and consultation to the exhibitor (answer waiting 0 Reviews Answered 0 Reviews)

Start time
10:40 14 Sep 2013

Starting price
5,000 yen

Bid increment
250 yen

Value under Settings
None

Consumption tax
(For an individual exhibit, consumption tax will not be charged.) No tax

Item Number
10000001

□商品名:アトムレコーダー(Vanrock Recorder) E-101

□年式:1984年~1985年

□一般の方には、何をする機械か全くわからないと思いますが
この機械は、当時カラオケスナックなどで、歌った曲をその場で
レコードにするというサービスをする為に、開発された商品
だと記憶しています。

テープ録音された音源をレコードにすることも、もちろん
できます。レコードサイズはEP盤のみにです。

出来上がりのレコード盤はモノラルです。
45回転と33回転を選べます。

ラッカー盤を使用するのですが、現在入手は難しいようです。
プラ板を使い自作で代用できるようです。

★ブログサイト「浪漫紀行」にアトムレコダーで録音している
様子が掲載されています。動画が見れます。

□動作確認:通電及びターンテーブルの回転は確認してます。
録音の作業確認はしておりません。

※ドライブベルト等交換の必要があるかもしれません。
太めの輪ゴム等で代替できるようです。

□付属品:電源コード、ピンジャクコード(ステレオ→モノラル)、交換用針

※説明書はありません。

※外見上、特にキズ汚れはありません。

※ノークレーム、ノーリターンでお願いします。

□ Product name: Atom recorder (Vanrock Recorder) E-101

□ Year : 1985 - 1984

□ Although I think to the general public , and do not know at all or machine what to
In snacks and karaoke at the time , the machine , on the spot song you sang
In order to service that record , and products developed
I seem to remember it 's .

To record the sound source taped also , of course
You can . Record size is the only EP board.

Record record of completion is monaural .
I will choose the 33 rpm and 45 rpm .

It is to use the lacquer disc , but available seems difficult now .
It seems can be replaced by using a self-made plastic board .

★ I have recorded in Atomurekoda blog site in the " Roman Kiko "
State has been published . I can see the video .

□ operation check : I'm sure the rotation of the turntable and energized.
I do not do the work confirm the recording .

※ There may be a need for drive belts replacement .
It seems to be replaced with a rubber band , such as a bit big .

□ Accessories : power cord , Hot pin code ( stereo → mono) , needle exchange

※ There is no manual .

※ apparently , there is no dirt in particular wound .

※ No claim , no return .
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Re: Retitled: Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

Post: # 27975Unread post studiorp
Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:10 pm

Intersting are the cutting stylus, Ogura Jewel ?? Never heard before this brand...

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Re: Retitled: Japanese Portable Lathes of the 1970s

Post: # 28026Unread post recordboy
Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:14 pm

WOW :shock: cool thread!!!

WOE 50$ that Atom recorder E-101 went for ?!?!
Cheers,
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