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I'm looking for a vinylium manual.

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Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:46 am

Would ne nice:)
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Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:46 am

for the dubcutter of course:)

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Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:01 pm

Thanks man!

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Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:43 pm

thanks Internet, the manual is an interesting read! :D

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VC200 settings - VU meter

Post: # 10801Unread post carter
Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:04 pm

I'm new to the forum but seeking some information to help me better operate a recently acquired dubcutter system. i got the system used and with no training, so i'm figuring all this out with invaluable help from reading this forum. come to think of it, without this forum i would have had some serious/fatal crash landings already. just the fact that someone posted the manual is enormously helpful.

Specifically, I don't understand how to interpret the way the VC200 displays the land and width settings (which i understand to be in micrometers [um]) - can someone translate, or post a photo with an example of a given setting -- 400 micrometers, 800, etc, something like that would be great.

FYI, the speed reading makes total sense -- top row, fourth light = 4, bottom row, fifth light = 5, setting = 45 rpm, etc.

On a related note, I would love some specs or anecdotal information on what cutting time to expect on various formats and various speeds with the extreme settings for width and land (10 inch plate can hold X minutes at 45 rpm with maximum land setting and maximum width setting, or 10 inch plate can hold approximately X minutes with min land/ min width) or maybe i need to experiment and post the results myself.

thanks in advance for any replies!

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Post: # 10803Unread post flozki
Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:20 pm

hello carter
then you have the older version of the vc200 panel.
it is just the engraving that changed. on later version
the information how to interpret the LEDs is there.

i try to get you the recent frontpannel print... then all makes sense.
i dont have it here right now...

there is plenty of hidden information .
you can even see how many cutting hours on your vc200
change parameters .....

f.

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Post: # 10806Unread post carter
Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:58 pm

Thanks in advance Flo, really appreciate the assist.

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kingston dubplatecutter vc-200 parameters..

Post: # 10847Unread post flozki
Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:02 am

ok here is
the actual frontpannel.

http://www.floka.com/pics/vc200_44_front.png

very easy from left to right 1,2,3,4.....

upper row are the ten's
lower row the ones...

on lower on the right it indicates which parameter you are watching.
RPM, speed of the turntable. it indicates which one you have set.because the vc200 has no sensor to detect.
LD. typicaly 20-30 um.
WH. with.. typically 60-70
TM. track mark time in 1/100s of a second so 90=0.9 seconds...

pretty much you can work perfect with the presets.
of course you need to verify if the groove with is 60-70 if set at this parameter....need a microscope with scale inside for that....

hope that helps.
the instructions how to change parameters and store them should be in the manual not sure. if not i will try to make a short summary....
flo

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Post: # 10854Unread post carter
Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:55 am

This is great, thanks.

The manual does explain how to change parameters, so I'm fine with that.

One thing I don't understand, however, is that the manual says to set groove width to double the depth. The depth is set manually, and it seems imprecise and there is no way to really measure this, so how do I really know the depth of a cut?

I have another issue that maybe I should post somewhere else, but the extreme left and right position of the cutterhead is limited by pins on each side that stop its lateral movement.

On the left, the pin that stops the cutterhead from going toward the center of the disc really prevents it from recording on a 7-inch record as far inward as many commercial releases are mastered (based on visual comparison). I'd estimate its a full minute of space. I'd have to measure but I'd guess it stops the head at least 75 mm to maybe a cm sooner than I'd like it to. Is there any way to modify this without risking damage to the machine? Why is it set where it is?

Ultimately, I'd like to do 7-inch cuts but I feel limited in terms of the length of the tracks I could cut with the system the way it is designed.

BTW, to my previous point, I did record slightly over 7 minutes on one side of a 10-inch last night. I can't remember where my settings were.

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Post: # 10857Unread post mossboss
Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:21 pm

Carter and others here
Here is a link with some standards of times size etc which where established many years ago so as to avoid such issues as posted here
http://www.aardvarkmastering.com/riaa.htm
Now if you stick to them you will find very little that people will complain about and I can assure you getting close to the centre on a 7" at 45 rpm its not a good idea
One can only get worst results by running a 7" at 33 rpm which is another NO NO even though you will see them around
Any way its up to you guys but one is better equiped if they are aware of what is acceptable as an established standard
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Post: # 10858Unread post flozki
Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:34 am

yes you can not go to standard diameter.
it is a compromise. the reason is the inner pully.which takes the chip.

the dubplatecutter was originally designed to cut acetate dubplates.
mostly 10 inch 12 inch.
mostly for a song or two. for dj use.
never to cut commercial masters.
so it was planned that the inner pully takes the chip. and it has a certain size.
you can modify that pully and adjust the stop screw . then it should be possible.

another thing is that the technics 1200/1210 has the motor magnet ring at this diameter.... and the magnets of the sc99 are so strong that it will start to change depht of the cut at this diameter..

so.there are a fe reasons the machine stops there...

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Post: # 10860Unread post carter
Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:39 am

ok, that's interesting. i did a test this morning and got nearly 3:30 inside a 7-inch diameter, which i can work with. would be nice to squeeze a few more milimeters out of a cut though.

i'm just a big fan of the 7-inch.

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Post: # 10861Unread post fraggle
Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:29 pm

I cut a few 7inch with almost 5 minutes without an issue.
But i modified the pulley wheel and i have a stainless steel plate on top of the kingston.
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Post: # 10867Unread post carter
Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:36 am

the steel plate - that doesn't cause problems with the magnets?

did you shorten the pin that stops the head's right to left movement?

5 minutes is the most i've ever heard of on a 7 - is that at 45 rpm? amazing if so.

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Post: # 10868Unread post markrob
Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:26 pm

Hi,

Hey Jude by the Beatles was 7:11

Meatloaf's I'd Do Anything for Love was 7:58

Anybody know of anything longer?

Mark

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Post: # 10869Unread post JuanPabloCuervo
Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:03 pm

markrob wrote:Hi,

Hey Jude by the Beatles was 7:11

Meatloaf's I'd Do Anything for Love was 7:58

Anybody know of anything longer?

Mark
:roll:
Iron Butterfly - In Da Gadda Da Vida 17:22
Danny Tenaglia feat. Celeda - Music is the Answer (danny's tourism mix) 14:07

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Post: # 10871Unread post fraggle
Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:21 pm

@carter
it's stainless steel which is not magnetic BUT i'm cutting on an sp10 which is different to a normal technics. the sp10 has a direct drive so no magnetic issues anyway.
yeah 33 rpm but i cut right to the sticker:) lol

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Post: # 11166Unread post subkontrabob
Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:09 am

JuanPabloCuervo wrote: :roll:
Iron Butterfly - In Da Gadda Da Vida 17:22
Danny Tenaglia feat. Celeda - Music is the Answer (danny's tourism mix) 14:07
the guys are referring to the longest tracks ever cut on a 7" ;)

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Post: # 11169Unread post carter
Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:08 am

i know, i just let that one go.

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