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by W.B.
Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:24 pm
Forum: Plating and Pressing
Topic: Vinyl Record Centre Hole diameter
Replies: 20
Views: 19542

Re: Vinyl Record Centre Hole diameter

0.286" is also roughly equivalent to the agate measuring system (in 14ths) of 0.285714285714" . . . or 2/7. The full mm of that is 7.25714285714 . . . - or rounded off, 7.26mm.
by W.B.
Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:59 pm
Forum: Plating and Pressing
Topic: Vinyl Record Centre Hole diameter
Replies: 20
Views: 19542

Re: Vinyl Record Centre Hole diameter

Over the years, many sizes were used for die-cut centre holes for vinyl record labels in the U.S. From least to most (with those over 0.3" usually for styrene labels), they are: J - 0.277" (7.096mm) K - 0.281" (7.137mm) 9/32" - 0.28125" (7.144mm) L - 0.290" (7.366mm) M - 0.295" (7.493mm) N - 0.302" ...
by W.B.
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:17 am
Forum: The Reference Archive
Topic: 1940's RCA In house notes
Replies: 4
Views: 4881

Re: 1940's RCA In house notes

From what I read of a 1956 interview with Larry Scully in (I.I.N.M.) High Fidelity magazine, the Scullys in use at RCA's studios were a prototype for the eventual Model 501; built some time between 1934 and 1937, while the 501 first came out in 1938. Didn't those early Scullys' use for cutting 78's ...
by W.B.
Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:41 pm
Forum: Newbie Forum
Topic: Questions about scully lathes
Replies: 9
Views: 2128

Re: Questions about scully lathes

Now, there is a possibility that between the models 501 and 601, one of the intermediate models was 503. I say this because of a classified ad in the November 1975 issued of DB (link here ), put out by Jerry Barnes of the famous United Western Studios in Hollywood: SCULLY LATHE. =503 auto variable p...
by W.B.
Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:59 pm
Forum: Secrets of the Lathe Trolls
Topic: Tompkins Square label is bringing back the 78 rpm
Replies: 18
Views: 3230

Re: Tompkins Square label is bringing back the 78 rpm

I'm curious as to what center label size is on these records - 3" or 3.625" diameter? (I'm thinking the post-1930 standard for center labels for 78's.)
by W.B.
Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:57 pm
Forum: Secrets of the Lathe Trolls
Topic: Dr. Groove's History of Recorded Sound article
Replies: 16
Views: 7458

Re: Dr. Groove's History of Recorded Sound article

I have to ask, given that this is a history-oriented thread. Prior to the stock market crash of 1929 that was followed by the Great Depression, there were all sorts of variations of center label sizes for 78's. Columbia, for example, had a 3.5" size label (dating to the 1910's if not earlier) that t...
by W.B.
Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:49 pm
Forum: Newbie Forum
Topic: Questions about scully lathes
Replies: 9
Views: 2128

Re: Questions about scully lathes

I can add to some of 'EmAtChapterV's' points: - After the invention of the LP record, Scully 501's (first introduced in 1938) had two different sets of mods, depending on what the client wanted. A second row of gearbox pitches could range from either 150 to 234 lpi, or 178 to 274 lpi. Columbia's New...
by W.B.
Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:08 pm
Forum: The Reference Archive
Topic: Practical Disc Recording (1948) - Richard H. Dorf
Replies: 7
Views: 2559

Re: Practical Disc Recording (1948) - Richard H. Dorf

I noticed this was a 1952 reprint, meaning that this didn't account either for magnetic tape recording and transfer to disc, or the newer 45 RPM speed. But for the period before these developments, this is indeed invaluable.
by W.B.
Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:48 am
Forum: The Reference Archive
Topic: Andrews Sisters recording V Disc - 4 Prestos
Replies: 1
Views: 1145

Re: Andrews Sisters recording V Disc - 4 Prestos

By the time of that Andrews Sisters' session, some recording companies - namely Columbia but, as of 1947 when Bing Crosby cut his second version of "White Christmas," Decca - recorded individual tracks simultaneously on 16" 33⅓ RPM reference acetates (vertical-cut, I.I.N.M.) as well as two 78 RPM la...
by W.B.
Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:45 am
Forum: The Treehouse
Topic: Lathes and then some... Help appreciated!
Replies: 1
Views: 5552

Re: Lathes and then some... Help appreciated!

As far as EMI's mastering setup went in the days of "tube" equipment, they used a circa 1950-55 Scully for cutting mono records (lead-out spirals spaced at 3.69 lpi for "slow" 4-pitch and 1.92 lpi for "fast" "45 finishing" 2-pitch), and a post-1955 Model 601 (here at 3.92 lpi and 2.04 lpi, respectiv...
by W.B.
Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:34 am
Forum: The Reference Archive
Topic: Great photo of Doug Sax/Mastering Lab Scully lathe
Replies: 4
Views: 3128

Re: Great photo of Doug Sax/Mastering Lab Scully lathe

Very interesting. That looks like a circa 1950-53 variant of the Scully (just what model number it was still escapes me - it was certainly pre-601). As far as the buttons go, through various pics I've seen of other models of this type I can gauge the functions thus: Panel at far left - RECORDER - LI...
by W.B.
Sat May 30, 2015 2:04 pm
Forum: Vinyl Mastering, Lacquer cutting, Pro's and others
Topic: Graphic Artist for making record labels/jackets needed
Replies: 2
Views: 1048

Re: Graphic Artist for making record labels/jackets needed

I've noticed that as far as templates for Adobe Illustrator, Quark, etc., are concerned, there are none for 78 RPM center labels (which, from the 1930's, were 3" in diameter); instead, the same size as used up to the '20's (approximately what would later be used for 45 RPM labels) have been used ins...
by W.B.
Sat May 30, 2015 8:39 am
Forum: The Reference Archive
Topic: Photo of Scully lathe at Gold Star, 1967
Replies: 5
Views: 1508

Re: Photo of Scully lathe at Gold Star, 1967

So Gold Star used Scully 501's. I figured as much; what I saw of such copies I have of The Righteous Brothers' "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' " and Sonny & Cher's "The Beat Goes On" had more in common with that than the later model 601. At least now we have confirmation.
by W.B.
Sat May 30, 2015 8:35 am
Forum: The Reference Archive
Topic: Vintage 1954 photos of Scully lathes in action
Replies: 1
Views: 798

Re: Vintage 1954 photos of Scully lathes in action

Wonder if that Scully 501 at Columbia/CBS was the same one on which many a 45 was cut between 1951 and 1966. I'm betting it is . . .
by W.B.
Sat May 30, 2015 1:56 am
Forum: Secrets of the Lathe Trolls
Topic: Restoring a Scully 501 lathe-anybody have literature/manual?
Replies: 31
Views: 6307

Re: Restoring a Scully 501 lathe-anybody have literature/man

IMG_3261.JPG Hello all-- I've had a long break since I first posted about my Scully lathe project. Been going through an 18-month divorce but finally back to concentrating on the Scully 501 restoration. I have visited Len Horowitz at HRS Sound here in LA and he let me copy some invaluable Scully li...
by W.B.
Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:10 am
Forum: Vinyl Mastering, Lacquer cutting, Pro's and others
Topic: Lazaretto?
Replies: 16
Views: 2956

Re: Lazaretto?

I don't think the later LS-76 had the "catch groove" option, if you were asking about when Scullys stopped making lathes that cut same. That was on models made between 1950 and 1972.
by W.B.
Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:22 am
Forum: Secrets of the Lathe Trolls
Topic: list of cutting engineer signatures/etches?
Replies: 16
Views: 9423

Re: list of cutting engineer signatures/etches?

I just stumbled upon the answer to the question of the DWJ initials in lacquers mastered for MCA in the 1970's. On this page, a scan of such initials in the deadwax were on the page for a mastering engineer who later went to work at JVC Studios by the end of the decade - Darryl (W.) Johnson.
by W.B.
Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:03 am
Forum: Plating and Pressing
Topic: Vinyl Record Centre Hole diameter
Replies: 20
Views: 19542

Re: Vinyl Record Centre Hole diameter

0.286" sounds like a nearest rounding off to the nearest thousandth of 0.285714285714..." (2/7"). As for center holes on center labels, I've seen them vary from 0.28" (7/25") to 0.28125" (9/32") to 0.2890625" (37/128"). (And I have a few label sheets, printed on paper ranging from C2S to uncoated to...
by W.B.
Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:12 pm
Forum: Secrets of the Lathe Trolls
Topic: Scully 601 lathe
Replies: 3
Views: 911

Re: Scully 601 lathe

Over a hundred, at the very least, scattered all around the world. One S/N I saw from the late 1950's was in the 560 range, another by the 1960's was around 610 or 620.

By the mid-to-late 1950's, it seems all Scully 601's had their "4 pitch" set at 4.17 lpi and their "2 pitch" set at 2.14 lpi.
by W.B.
Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:17 pm
Forum: Circuits, schematics and manuals
Topic: Various Scully/Westrex/Capps stuff
Replies: 34
Views: 13294

Re: Various Scully/Westrex/Capps stuff

Anything in these manuals about the pitches of lead-ins / spirals, lead-outs, and the whole business of catch grooves? I know that "8 pitch" is shorthand for 7.625 lpi, "32 pitch" for 32.3125 lpi, and that there are numerous variances of 2- and 4-pitch lead-outs. (As well as 15.625 lpi "16 pitch" fo...