Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

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Phon
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Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

Post: # 41608Unread post Phon
Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:20 am

Has anybody ever tried? What would happen. I know sound cannot travel in a vacuum, but vibrations do. So in theory recording vinyl with a stylus under a vacuum should be possible?

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Re: Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

Post: # 41633Unread post recordboy
Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:25 am

I would imagine yes.
As the recording being projected
is mechanical. no air is needed.
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Re: Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

Post: # 41642Unread post Phon
Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:08 am

recordboy wrote:I would imagine yes.
As the recording being projected
is mechanical. no air is needed.
yes, that would be an interesting experiment, maybe less friction in the vacuum would allow more detail.

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Re: Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

Post: # 41697Unread post recordboy
Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:20 am

There might be problems with heat though.
overheating the head as there would be no escape... yet that depends on usage.

interesting thought.
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Re: Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

Post: # 41706Unread post JLenahan2
Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:22 am

you are correct in there would be no way to dissipate the heat via convection, but all objects (whether in vacuum or not) can remove the thermal energy via radiation. I will search through my heat transfer textbook from undergrad for any equations that may apply. Will update soon

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Re: Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

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Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:55 pm

interesting, if I had the equipment I would try myself.

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Re: Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

Post: # 41721Unread post Greg Reierson
Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:28 am

You also couldn't pick up the chip. I can't imagine a single benefit to the groove. If anything there would probably be more springback than usual.
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Re: Vinyl cutting under a vacuum?

Post: # 41724Unread post dubcutter89
Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:59 am

There was a time when master records where gold sputtered in a vacuum chamber.
But when the nitrocellulose disks came along the process was not adoptable because of the indegrents (oils...) getting out of the lacquer and ruining the master....

so probably nogo for dubs, plastic schould be ok.
heat dissipation will be worse as mentioned, additional cooling to head not easy...
chip pickup also hard.
advanteges? don't think so...

BTW, old emil berliner used to cut some of his plates under water (or alcohol) with a wax chip that was lighter than the medium and therefore floating on it without messing around the groove - so who wants to take a bath with his neumann???

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