Cutting timecode vinyl using T560?
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Cutting timecode vinyl using T560?
Hi
Recently I got many requests to cut timecode vinyl (Serato, Rekordbox or Traktor etc.) so I wonder if it is even possible to cut them with T560?
Recently I got many requests to cut timecode vinyl (Serato, Rekordbox or Traktor etc.) so I wonder if it is even possible to cut them with T560?
- soeffingodly
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Re: Cutting timecode vinyl using T560?
With those new Phase DJ gigs I see these going the way of the dinosaur.
Besides I HATE HATE HATE the noise. I have to keep turning up my volume to drown it out. Neighbors aren't fans.
But to answer your question, I have no idea but I don't see why you couldn't?
Besides I HATE HATE HATE the noise. I have to keep turning up my volume to drown it out. Neighbors aren't fans.
But to answer your question, I have no idea but I don't see why you couldn't?
"I wasn't lying. Things I said later seemed untrue."
Re: Cutting timecode vinyl using T560?
It is possible. Be aware that the signal is proprietary and copyrighted.
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Re: Cutting timecode vinyl using T560?
Not sure that a mathematique signal is the proprietary of anyone... it is free of use...
Also I can manage to buy the right for silence or 1k tones ... could be so funny.
You can cut your timecode in the way you want. No rights on that.
Also I can manage to buy the right for silence or 1k tones ... could be so funny.
You can cut your timecode in the way you want. No rights on that.
Re: Cutting timecode vinyl using T560?
Haha. Good one. This is not neopilot tone we are talking about here or even BITC, SMPTE, MTC or VTC.... It contains position info, channel info and more. Serato's proprietary (yes, it is, sorry) system 'NoiseMap' uses a "maximal-length pseudo random bit sequence, generated using a linear feedback shift register". Or at least that's what they told me when I contacted them to discuss cutting control records, but obviously you know better... No idea what that means, I'm not a software engineer, but I do know it's proprietary and copyrighted. Perhaps other systems use something different/more simple, but I gave up researching it after Serato's response...dkmastering wrote:Not sure that a mathematique signal is the proprietary of anyone... it is free of use...
Also I can manage to buy the right for silence or 1k tones ... could be so funny.
You can cut your timecode in the way you want. No rights on that.
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Re: Cutting timecode vinyl using T560?
I contacted Serato some time ago and requested permission. They categorically refused. I would not do this...
Re: Cutting timecode vinyl using T560?
Serato and Traktor (and most of the DVS companies) have proprietry tones, with extra noises on them partly to make them proprietry but mostly to give them features as listed above (position, direction etc)
I've heard of lots of people trying to copy them with dubs, it used to be kind of possible, just like its possible to get some sound out of serato by playing the right hi fi test disc, but it doesnt "work" properly.
The noisemap technology probably needs to be reproduced perfectly so dubbing it is naturally going to introduce some sort of difference from the original, once its been sampled on a stylus/cart/tonearm/turntable/cable/phono stage/mixer/more cable/ADC/software/DAC/morecable/IRIAA/more cable/cutting head/cutting stylus..........
Serato are notoriously difficult to persuade into licensing the tone also. I know a couple of people who had to work really hard to get them to license it to a couple of projects that were no-brainers as far as sales.
There is a DVS software on iphones/ipads now called DJ Player Pro, you can tune it to listen to any tone. So you could cut dubs of 1k maybe and get it working.
I've heard of lots of people trying to copy them with dubs, it used to be kind of possible, just like its possible to get some sound out of serato by playing the right hi fi test disc, but it doesnt "work" properly.
The noisemap technology probably needs to be reproduced perfectly so dubbing it is naturally going to introduce some sort of difference from the original, once its been sampled on a stylus/cart/tonearm/turntable/cable/phono stage/mixer/more cable/ADC/software/DAC/morecable/IRIAA/more cable/cutting head/cutting stylus..........
Serato are notoriously difficult to persuade into licensing the tone also. I know a couple of people who had to work really hard to get them to license it to a couple of projects that were no-brainers as far as sales.
There is a DVS software on iphones/ipads now called DJ Player Pro, you can tune it to listen to any tone. So you could cut dubs of 1k maybe and get it working.