New: Phonocut Desktop Disc Cutter

[tragwag]

I'll just say I'm glad I bought in early, I want to say I paid 1,800 eur?
it's a no brainer for folks like me to stay in. like you all said, I trust the team and it makes sense that upscaling the manufacture presented some unknown hurdles.
I would definitely debate whether to buy this type of machine at the 8,000-10,000 price range though

[Shamax]

Agreed. At that price point, I'd much rather go the Souri route or buy a refurb Presto from a professional. Granted, those options aren't as "plug and play" as Phonocut aims to be, but that's a pretty pricey trade-off.

[2bitcomputer]

Also, don't forget that (the last time I checked) it won't cut a 12" record.
10" is as big as gets for the Phonocut
Maybe the increased cost is also to allow for 12inchers?
Anyways...
I also got in early and will wait it out.

[13yo]

is this still not available? who's runnin that place, Elizabeth Holmes?

_m

[msartori]

is this still not available? who's runnin that place, Elizabeth Holmes?

_m

[Discomo]

I’m amazed so many people pay upfront for a machine which doesn’t even exist yet. And now waiting for 2+ years. For the same money you can get a couple of Souri’s. Anyway, wish you people all the luck. Hope it will go well for you.

[Shamax]

I’m amazed so many people pay upfront for a machine which doesn’t even exist yet. And now waiting for 2+ years. For the same money you can get a couple of Souri’s. Anyway, wish you people all the luck. Hope it will go well for you.

I'm amazed that you apparently know where someone can purchase multiple Souri-lathes for less than 1,000 EUR (the initial investor price)? Pray tell!

[Discomo]

I’m amazed so many people pay upfront for a machine which doesn’t even exist yet. And now waiting for 2+ years. For the same money you can get a couple of Souri’s. Anyway, wish you people all the luck. Hope it will go well for you.

I'm amazed that you apparently know where someone can purchase multiple Souri-lathes for less than 1,000 EUR (the initial investor price)? Pray tell!

Hey, it’s your money!

[rsimms3]

Is this still coming out this year?

Ooops, wrong year. Last update was expected delivery end of 2024.

[displacedsnail]

I threw my hat in the ring for one of these, but ended up opting for a refund to front a record release. A bird in the hand, etc. etc. I was in Vienna for a book fair and many of the artists I met didn't have good things to say about the founders. But that's all hearsay! I'd be tickled if this became a reality that can (hopefully) stick to its price point on blanks, a little too expensive to run a business using it but it'd be great for personal use.

[Bertoolius]

My 2 cents about Phonocut.

I don't understand the lack of communication. I don't think that the messages they posted are enough. Respect your customers. share you problems, challenges and mistakes. involve us in the product's story. that's what crowdfunding is about. the customers are investors, they deserve more than dropping a shy we're sorry every year with little details.

I got a BIG problem with anyone trying to close source DIY activities, materials and equipment. We're not fools. everybody knows how blanks are made. there's no secret recipe. so instead of trying to maximise your profit with expensive consumables, just open the product as much as possible to allow users to repair upgrade and use whatever they want to cut records.

The mistakes and choices show how some of the founders are disconnected from the reality. I feel for Flo who seems to be carrying a lot of the work on his own if only alone.

One thing that I'm looking forward to discover is the partnership with Ortophon. I can imagine a possible cutting head which could lead to Ortophon reactivating its cutting heads portfolio or creating a new one. But please Ortophon do it on your own not with Phonocut.

[Vinylfan]

Is there still any troll in the project and has received the updates #24 and #25?
Although there was a lot of information I am a little uncertain what this all means...

[selectavision]

Is there still any troll in the project and has received the updates #24 and #25?
Although there was a lot of information I am a little uncertain what this all means...

Maybe it just means that the money is gone and the project has gone down the drain!

[HannesFTL]

Read somewhere he started some kind of new business

[zdenek]

I read this entire thread and I already understood that many famous figures and experts in the subject "about lathes for vinyl records and cutting heads and so-called diamond knives" had their dirty hands involved in this failed device for just over $1000. Typical Nigerian scam, they downloaded money from people, they promised mountains of gold to save their household budget ...

[boryo]

I read this entire thread and I already understood that many famous figures and experts in the subject "about lathes for vinyl records and cutting heads and so-called diamond knives" had their dirty hands involved in this failed device for just over $1000. Typical Nigerian scam, they downloaded money from people, they promised mountains of gold to save their household budget ...

I don't know why, but people who never created anything always talk shit about those who did it. Probably everybody knows who the guy with the 'cutting heads' is, so why don't you just tag him and we are all aligned? Being involved into something doesn't mean automatically you are responsible for it's failure even though it is not officially failed. Delayed - YES but failed - nobody knows at the moment. Maybe it would be much better if you kept continue reading and check their website.

We have made positive progress but realistically your machine will not be in your hands before the end of 2024 at the very earliest. As explained below, the refund option remains open for you 24/7.

Did you ordered a machine?
If so, you can get a refund. If not - how can you tell it is a Nigerian scam?
Since you've already read the entire thread you should have seen that some people already got their money back to fund another project.
Again... you should not talk shit about people who proved themselves thru the years. Probably everything or if not everything - for sure huge part of what you've learned about record making/cutting machines you know from this forum and the people you talk shit about have huge contribution here.

Get inspired, get creative, create better product and bring something positivite to the world. For now you mostly talk shit and playing 'the smart guy'...

[zdenek]

I read this entire thread and I already understood that many famous figures and experts in the subject "about lathes for vinyl records and cutting heads and so-called diamond knives" had their dirty hands involved in this failed device for just over $1000. Typical Nigerian scam, they downloaded money from people, they promised mountains of gold to save their household budget ...

I don't know why, but people who never created anything always talk shit about those who did it. Probably everybody knows who the guy with the 'cutting heads' is, so why don't you just tag him and we are all aligned? Being involved into something doesn't mean automatically you are responsible for it's failure even though it is not officially failed. Delayed - YES but failed - nobody knows at the moment. Maybe it would be much better if you kept continue reading and check their website.

We have made positive progress but realistically your machine will not be in your hands before the end of 2024 at the very earliest. As explained below, the refund option remains open for you 24/7.

Did you ordered a machine?
If so, you can get a refund. If not - how can you tell it is a Nigerian scam?
Since you've already read the entire thread you should have seen that some people already got their money back to fund another project.
Again... you should not talk shit about people who proved themselves thru the years. Probably everything or if not everything - for sure huge part of what you've learned about record making/cutting machines you know from this forum and the people you talk shit about have huge contribution here.

Get inspired, get creative, create better product and bring something positivite to the world. For now you mostly talk shit and playing 'the smart guy'...

Im creative .
Four strikes is $100, plus $50 to maintain this site, plus shipping $50 worldwide, will that be ok?
You don't have to wait four years and get a plastic disc with a test recording for $1,100.
In my case, you have the finished product now.
Pay $200 to the account of this website and I will send the package to you tomorrow. You can test it etc. Do you know what these plates are for?

[himynameisjacob]

Florian, and whole Phonocut is a scam. I did not expeted it in tyhis proefssion, but here we go... almost a Nigeriam scam

1. Guy sets new product to be shipped in 2020
2. You put your hard earned money on kickstarter, where you are told to receive a phonocut machine, some blanks, and other stuff
3. It's 2025 and nothing has moved forward,no machine ready. FIVE years after.
4. He asks for 3x more money (!!!) and if you don't do it, you'll not receive Phonocut.
5. Again, YOU'LL NOT RECEIVE LATHE when you don't triple your pledge. This is of course a widely-seen as a regular scam.

Deal is deal. We have all it initial email from Kickstarter. You'll have two ways here
1. full Refund
2. give him more money and wait another XY time.

Unofrtunately first option is not an option.

I point you all that have been scammed by Florian, to have a lawyer and set official claim/court case. It's easy and will not cost you a lot.

[Dubcutz]

Hi Jacob

I’m sorry you feel this way, I can assure you this is not a scam, just email them directly with your concerns and i’m sure they will be able to assist you in every way possible. Can you please remove your previous post it’s dis respectful..
take it easy
theo

[himynameisjacob]

Hi Jacob

I’m sorry you feel this way, I can assure you this is not a scam, just email them directly with your concerns and i’m sure they will be able to assist you in every way possible. Can you please remove your previous post it’s dis respectful..
take it easy
theo

Do you work there, mate?
How can he assist me? He already wrote me several times that I have only one way: to TRIPLE MY PLEDGE. That was not the deal!

1) I paid for the Phonocut recorder, stylus, 5 blanks, manual, power suppy and shipping and that was our deal.
2) We are over 4+ years from the inital delivery date. OVER FOUR YEARS late! Still no machine ready.
3) Now, he wants TRIPLE the money I invested to have the machine - If I don't do it - I will receive NOTHING.

That was not the deal. Ale he has changed the looks completely etc. So - we're many years late, not the design I wanted, he wants triple the money. Ask your lawyer about it - because I asked mine and now I know everything. There are TWO WAYS to end this scam party. Return 100% of the pledge to me and other who don't want to be part of "new project" very different from what was told in the beginning and also financially. Second way is to send him 3x more money and wait God know how long.

Sorry, my key was to help someone build his "dream easy to use lathe" and be part of the project and have one. But it's been so many years and still nothing! Nothing other than asking for more money which was of course not the deal I made with him. Buy the way - i see case when someone wants is desperately and will pay triple. I see it, and understand. But I don't want to participate anymore with changed rules. I already put all my docs, emails and kickstarted stuff to my lawyer.

This is just a scam, regular scam, and I hate theieves, I really do!