vacuum pump vms70

Post: # 12451Unread post **misjah** Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:25 am

hi guys,

in stead of a "real" pump my vms70 came with a vacuum cleaner which works well i assume (currently assembling the lathe) but it makes a hella lot of noise so im looking for a replacement pump. now i found this pump online and was wondering if its powerfull enough:

Type: suctioncompressor, oilfree
Motor: 1/5 hp (150 Watt)
1450 / 1700 rpm
Standardvolume: 20 - 23 L/min
Max. pressure: 7,0 bar
Max. Vacüum: 600 mm Hg
Hoseconnect: 1/8" 9,7 mm
Noise: ca. 40 dB

any help or suggestions appreciated.

Post: # 12452Unread post **opcode66** Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:49 am

My vaccuum is a modern replacement for the original. I will find out the source and try to get a model number for you.

Mine is encased in a wooden enclosure that dampens the noise. Not sure if the enclosure is original or custom made. I put it on a folded towel and that keeps it from transferring the noise through the floor.

Post: # 12453Unread post **misjah** Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:55 am

here's a link to the one i found:

http://www.webprodie.nl/admin/user/webshop/webshop_show_product.php?productID=255378

Size: 255 x 135 x 170 mm

Post: # 12455Unread post **Aussie0zborn** Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:11 am

I would say that would work. It was not uncommon to use a vacuum cleaner as a replacement. You can run the vacuum cleaner off a 110 volt step-down transformer to reduce the noise (and the suction). You can also place the vacuum cleaner in another room to reduce the noise it makes.

First thing is to get the lathe up and running.

Post: # 12458Unread post **misjah** Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:46 am

placing it in another room is not an option. vacuum cleaner on 110v would still be rather noisy and transformer would cost the same as this pump (new only 90 euro)...

Post: # 12460Unread post **SueDenim** Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:25 am

@Misjah
Could you also provide a link to the full website rather than just the image please?
I may wish to buy one of these myself soon.

Thx

PS - dug out some of your early stuff on DJAX the other day... still rocks!

Post: # 12461Unread post **misjah** Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:30 am

no problem...but its all in dutch though.

http://www.internetwebshop.nl/webshop/bekijk_product/255378/Airbrush_mini_compressor_en_vacuumpomp_in_1.html

Post: # 12462Unread post **concretecowboy71** Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:19 am

Search for a posting I posted a while back about this issue.

Somebody suggested pumps for a fish tank, which I thought was a cool idea.

Post: # 12463Unread post **concretecowboy71** Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:21 am

Here is the original thread:
https://lathetrolls.com/viewtopic.php?t=1778&highlight=vacuum&mforum=lathetrolls

Post: # 12464Unread post **misjah** Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:32 am

mmm interesting thanks..

Post: # 12465Unread post **SueDenim** Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:37 am

Thanks Misjah - no problem with translating.
Just need enough Dutch to be able to Google it!

Here's the same model in the UK:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Airbrush-Mini-Compressor-Vacuum-Pump-device/dp/B0036OGDVC

Post: # 12466Unread post **misjah** Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:44 am

what would be the minimal l/h or l/min required for enough suction?. does anybody know the specs on the original vms70 pump?

Post: # 12474Unread post **theartofmastering** Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:35 pm

Hi Misjah,

Strange asking the world when all the answers were sitting beside you in the Van driving the lathe from London to Numansdorp.

Maarten de Boer
The Masters
Emil Berliner Studios

Post: # 12476Unread post **opcode66** Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:05 pm

Misjah,

I puchased my lathe restored by Al Grundy. He used this vacuum motor as a replacecment for my lathe. It is enclosed in a wooden box to help with the noise.

I got the shipping box for the motor. This is what is on the label of the box. I believe 2M192 is the model number.

AMETEK
116311-01

2M192
Vacuum Motor
2-Stage, THR BALL BEARING
120 Volts 50/60 HZ

AMETEK
Lamb Electric Div.
Kent, Ohio 44220
USA

Take Care,

Todd

Post: # 12479Unread post **dietrich10** Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:44 pm

My system came with a hoover power pak with all hoses to work with.
I did need to buy a power variac and I run it maybe 40%. Also, have luxury that it is on the other side of the wall.

Post: # 12482Unread post **misjah** Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:07 am

theartofmastering wrote:Hi Misjah,

Strange asking the world when all the answers were sitting beside you in the Van driving the lathe from London to Numansdorp.

Maarten de Boer
The Masters
Emil Berliner Studios

Because i didnt expect the vacuum to be THAT noisy and i didnt want to bother you on sat/sunday with a vacuumcleaner question. Will call you today though

Post: # 12485Unread post **andybee** Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:32 am

For my AM32, 40liter per minute work very well,
I use a yusanaga LP-40 pump, very quiet, but to make it
nearly silent, I put it in a cheap plasic box with some foam
(from my old recording booth).
but pump is not very cheap, arround 275 Euros new...

Post: # 12491Unread post **JayDC** Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:35 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vacuum-Pump-Rotary-2-CFM-1-6-HP-1720-RPM-R12-R22-R134a-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5197870f36QQitemZ350434561846QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

what about something like this one.. can't beat the price..

Post: # 12499Unread post **fraggle** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:10 pm

@ JayDC
i'm using the same pump but a bit bigger.
Don't go for a small one that's a waste of money i have tried it and had to send it back.
cheers

Post: # 12501Unread post **JayDC** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:23 pm

what size pump are you using fraggle?

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