which company printed the new radiohead album?

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which company printed the new radiohead album?

Post: # 14257Unread post fraggle
Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:16 am

just out of interest:)
It says made in EU on the cover.
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Post: # 14263Unread post mossboss
Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:27 am

As a 1st educated guess it would be Record Industries in Holland They seem to do most of the major labels
Second guess would be Optimal in Germany
I would discount the Vinyl Factory as it would have made in the UK Not EU
A tip for you
Have a look in the dead wax area, see if the matrix no and details are hand scribed or in proper type like from a stamp
If stamped this will eliminate Optimal
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Post: # 14268Unread post GeorgeZ
Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:51 pm

mossboss wrote:...
A tip for you
Have a look in the dead wax area, see if the matrix no and details are hand scribed or in proper type like from a stamp
If stamped this will eliminate Optimal
Cheers
Yes, a good tip :wink:
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GZ Vinyl / GZ Media Lodenice
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Post: # 14286Unread post fraggle
Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:56 pm

cool it is handwritten though.

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Post: # 14287Unread post mossboss
Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:10 am

Boris
Here is another tip
The paper sleeves are printed
The vinyl record is pressed
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Post: # 14288Unread post fraggle
Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:55 am

hehe bloody English.
is there normally not a number on vinyl to identify the company?
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Post: # 14290Unread post cymbalism
Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:53 am

I ordered my deluxe copy months ago and as of yet still do not have it
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Post: # 14301Unread post mossboss
Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:48 pm

Tommie
Its made in the EU
They are all deluxe :wink:
Boris
After a while you get to know the scribed markings of the cutter even without his initials
Its like a signature
If it was cut in plant than its easy if not than its a guessing game but you would know who cut it at least
There is not that many cutters out there
There was even less in days gone past
If you put up a photo of the matrix no up here we may be able to decipher it if you really care that much
George Z
Is this a cryptic msg?
I think George is telling you and the rest of us it was done at GZ
Is That so George???
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Post: # 14309Unread post GeorgeZ
Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:01 am

mossboss wrote: George Z
Is this a cryptic msg?
I think George is telling you and the rest of us it was done at GZ
Is That so George???
Cheers
I'm not sure I'm allowed to confirm or deny any possible confident info so here is my hint how to identify our pressings and cuts (written for stevehoffman.tv forum):

Our matrix numbers (must be machine ones) have been present on all records pressed by GZ Vinyl since 20th century, even if the customer supplies us with his own stampers (very rare case).
The actual matrix indexing since 2003: increasing number per title e.g. 92212 now + suffix E,M,H,O,F or N (size and revolutions code) + number 1,2,3 etc. (side index 1 = A side, 2 = B side) + / + additional processing suffixes (cutting session A, B, C ... + pressing suffixes).
E.g. 78458E1/A, 92125H2/B/H

Moreover, if we cut a copper / lacquer plate here we don't add any handwritten info. A record with handwritten info wasn't cut by GZ for sure, but if you also can find our matrix number there, it means that the lacquer/copper plates or mothers were supplied to us by a customer and then we galvanized them and pressed the records.

BTW: There are several versions of the new Radiohead vinyl record...
Jiri Zita
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Post: # 14316Unread post mossboss
Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:08 am

Yes George
Thanks for that
It is a standard way as used by lots of cutting houses in the past or a variation of such a theme
In most cases labels will alocate a matrix no which will be scribed or typed on the lacquer
So it is not that easy but a series of eliminations will get someone there After all there is only so many plants in the EU so having disposed of at least 5 I know of which use type for lacquer markings its not that hard
on the proviso it was cut in house The hunt is a bit wider if it was cut outside as I said before
Another telling point is the profile of the moulds which also can give away the plant so long as you have a clue
So Alpha moulds made in the UK are different than the equivalents in the Continent
Also some plants have they own specific profile once you know it is easy
Any way there is only a few plants left after one takes away 5 of them
Its not a case of being Sherlock Holmes either
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Chris

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