First Cut + Swarf Issue

[Xertz]

Hi. Long time no see! I really stoked because I just made my first cut on my Recordio. I had to stop because tons of swarf was gathering on the record and I was worried about damaging my new needle. I don't have a chance to listen to it (I don't trust my good needle with my sketchy record). Which unfortunately brings me to my next point. I want to know how to take care of the swarf issue because I can't continue without figuring out how to get rid of it (I cut on PETG if that helps)

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Help is much appreciated!
- Otto

[piaptk]

Are you using a diamond on a petg disc? If you are using a sapphire you are going to ruin the tip.

[Xertz]

I was using one of Gibs metal needles.

[piaptk]

I dont know what hes selling these days, but if its the old school steel cutting needles he was selling me a decade ago when i started, they dont cut plastic well at all. He told me they did, too when i started and i wasted a year using his advice, before i realized he was a radio repairman, not a record cutter and that he had no idea what he was talking about.

Was there a bunch of grinding and noise coming off of the disc while you cut? Any noise that comes off the surface while cutting is going to be present amplified in playback.

The only way they can possibly work on plastoc is if they have a conical tip and emboss. And since you are getting swarf, thats not the case.

Buy tungsten embossing cones from Farmer John.

[piaptk]

Also, ive never gotten an old school steel needle that still cut at all. Somewhere on ehre somebody said that the metal degrades and starts to pit, and that makes sense to me because they spund awful, even when cutting on appropriate materials (but PETG DEFINITELY aint it).

100% Guarantee you will get nowhere with that combination.

[Xertz]

Was there a bunch of grinding and noise coming off of the disc while you cut

No it sounded quite normal.

I dont know what hes selling these days, but if its the old school steel cutting needles he was selling me a decade ago when i started, they dont cut plastic well at all. He told me they did, too when i started and i wasted a year using his advice, before i realized he was a radio repairman, not a record cutter and that he had no idea what he was talking about.

Wow. I had no idea.

Buy tungsten embossing cones from Farmer John.

Will do.

Somewhere on ehre somebody said that the metal degrades and starts to pit, and that makes sense to me because they spund awful, even when cutting on appropriate materials (but PETG DEFINITELY aint it).

Good to know. I have an unlimited source of PETG, have you had any success cutting on it with tungsten?

[piaptk]

Yes, tungsten needles will emboss Petg I believe.

[piaptk]

Does your Petg have a textured surface? Or is it smooth? It looks like a lenticular lens in the photos.

[45rpmdude]

the needles may need sharpening,,, get a sharpening stone. and sharpen them in a cucrcular motion.