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msartori
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VR vacuum pump

Post: # 61501Unread post msartori
Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:19 pm

Hello everybody.
Can you give me some advice on which vacuum to buy for my VR?
Mine is very Noisy... vibration etc
I have read that the best solution is the vacuum pump (very quiet).
Which vacuum pump do you recommend?
I know this has been discussed before ... but it's a jungle ... and it's not easy to figure out the best solution for me.

Thank you
Marco

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 61511Unread post tragwag
Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:58 pm

making lathe cuts on a Presto 6N, HIFI stereo cuts on vinylrecorder
at Audio Geography Studios, Providence, RI USA
http://www.audiogeography.com

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 61512Unread post msartori
Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:23 pm

thank you, but the seller doesn't offer international shipping :-(

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 61513Unread post boryo
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:43 am

msartori wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:23 pm
thank you, but the seller doesn't offer international shipping :-(
contact the seller and ask him if he could send intl. it worked for me a few times

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 61515Unread post Mutech
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:16 pm

I order this one some months ago and he delivered it to Spain from USA. The pump works nice, recommended. If you contact him indicate that you will be using for vinyl record cutting

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 61516Unread post msartori
Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:59 pm

At the moment he do not ship to the EU due to CE certification

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 62767Unread post msartori
Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:51 am

Any other suggestion?

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 62769Unread post farmersplow
Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:39 pm

I found this: New Player Piano Electric Vacuum Motor/Suction Box w/Volume Control

230V-Version: € 158,- : https://www.sectbook.com/detail/New-Player-Piano-Electric-Vacuum-Motor-suction-Box-W-volume-Control-220-240-Volt_kcmu1uvsyx1z001.html
110V-Version: € 167,- : https://www.sectbook.com/detail/New-Compact-Player-Piano-Electric-Vacuum-Motor-suction-Box-Ss1c-120_kcmu1uvwwxwvuwy.html

The images shown appear to be from the same vendor as the images on E-Bay.

But beware: I do NOT know this seller!
At this price it could be a fake site.

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 62771Unread post msartori
Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:37 pm

I think I have to find something in Europe.
This is the answer from the vendor:

The EU economic zone requires CE certification for electric and electronic devices - certification that is not economically viable for us given the small volume we sell.

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 62787Unread post PMST
Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:16 am

I use a BZT Side Channel Blower, never had an issue, from Germany.

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 62789Unread post farmersplow
Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:05 pm

I also use this side channel blower and it works without problems. But it is far from "quiet"!

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 62791Unread post boogievan
Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:58 am

Why reinvent the wheel, innit? The old wooden boxes made by Lee contained an Ametek / Lamb motor. So, roll your own Lee chip pump... Make a small wooden box that can just hold this motor:

https://www.thevacuumfactory.com/product/lamb-ametek-116342-00-2-stage-5-7-vacuum-motor-220-volt/

Have a neoprene mousepad or similar in the bottom of the box for the motor to rest on, with its suction opening on the top and a circle cut in the top of the box for a vacuum hose to be inserted (and get the gasket from the vendor), and then put the box on a custom wooden tray with walls that has a foam pad lining for the box to sit on. This will minimize vibrations.

The pump will need to be driven variably for least noise, using full power at cutter drop and then dialing down the VariAc that goes to the pump's power cord after a few revs. I can't help you with the nozzle hiss, which is the louder of the noises made by the suction, and not the drone of the pump... Fancier if you can add a microswitch to activate a relay for the power to the pump so that the suction begins automatically if the turntable is revolving as soon as you move the cutter close to the platter. Then you add a 555 timer so that full power is on first, and after 3.6 seconds or so, it goes to 2/3 power or whatever works (e.g., 2/3, at first, and then 1/2, later...) - depends on if you use the same pump for other suction purposes besides swarf removal, such as vacuum-clamping the blank to the platter...

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Re: VR vacuum pump

Post: # 62823Unread post Vice Fiori
Mon May 01, 2023 3:46 am

msartori wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:51 am
Any other suggestion?
I use a Air Conditioner Compressor, silent, so I can use at the bottom of my desk, inside the studio, even make records in the middle of the night...
I dont use a t560, so I dont know if that large tube going to take too much airflow, maybe had to make that hole mor tight, and that chip jar had to put a filter like that mini used in motorcicles i guess, thats what I use, never let me down

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