Landsurfing and embossing

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kafkablues
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Landsurfing and embossing

Post: # 62244Unread post kafkablues
Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:43 pm

Hi Folks,

I am currently embossing and getting some very good results. The only issue I am getting is 'landsurfing' nearly always at the start of the disk. Is this a given with embossing or is there anything I can to do to reduce it happening?

Much appreciated. :)

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Re: Landsurfing and embossing

Post: # 62249Unread post apoklis
Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:27 pm

What is the width of the starting grooves ? Is it the same as the end grooves? Is the lathe level all the way across?

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Re: Landsurfing and embossing

Post: # 62250Unread post apoklis
Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:48 pm

Also ,I ve had problems when the sylist is leaned too far back. check you angle and weight . see if that helps.

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Re: Landsurfing and embossing

Post: # 62253Unread post piaptk
Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:50 am

What do you mean by “landsurfing” exactly? Playback stylus skating? Or riding between horns on the side of the groove? What embossing styli are you using?
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Re: Landsurfing and embossing

Post: # 62280Unread post kafkablues
Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:26 pm

Hi folks,

Many thanks for the advice. Think I’m nearly there. I’m just stuck between ‘tricky’ tracking with very low noise and ‘no problem’ tracking with a little noise (it’s acceptable but I want to get it better).

I guess it might be a trade off. Will experiment a little more this week.

Piapkt: I’m using your needle and yes I’m talking about the horns.

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Re: Landsurfing and embossing

Post: # 62307Unread post tragwag
Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:31 pm

yeah I hear you there! it's an angle adjustment usually for me.
Like you I'll get the lowest surface noise, and some "horn riding" issues on louder cuts.
Then I angle the head back towards flat, and get better tracking, but slightly higher surface noise.
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