This, which I've got right yesterday, beats'em all:
"I would like to receive a quotation for Picturediscs with generic black labels"
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montalbano
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Strange inquiries
Phil from Phono Press, Milan, Italy
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I read that to mean that they want picture discs. With a picture. But, they want plain black center labels.
The likely conclusion being that what would normally be on the center label would likely be printed on the picture for the picture disc.
IE they want picture discs as we all know and love but with plain blank center labels. Not so ridiculous...
The likely conclusion being that what would normally be on the center label would likely be printed on the picture for the picture disc.
IE they want picture discs as we all know and love but with plain blank center labels. Not so ridiculous...
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Can you press with no label? I remember reading some discussion on the board on this topic. I don't remember the outcome. I've never seen a pressed record that didn't have a label...
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hey hey hey
this guy had no idea OK? Simple =)
Picturedisc = 295 mm die cut labels on front and back
Above the labels, the PVC sheets.
Yes Andy one can draw a "fake" 100mm label and many fancies outside. For example one could draw a generic black label surrounded by "black flames" and the rest of the label white, just like a black sun. I've pressed several records like that. Cool.
But anyway this was not the case! =)
But the "black sun" or the "spash" effect can be done randomly with the PVC even without making a picturedisc, just use a manual press and go for it!
See this release we've pressed recently
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=3559903
this guy had no idea OK? Simple =)
Picturedisc = 295 mm die cut labels on front and back
Above the labels, the PVC sheets.
Yes Andy one can draw a "fake" 100mm label and many fancies outside. For example one could draw a generic black label surrounded by "black flames" and the rest of the label white, just like a black sun. I've pressed several records like that. Cool.
But anyway this was not the case! =)
But the "black sun" or the "spash" effect can be done randomly with the PVC even without making a picturedisc, just use a manual press and go for it!
See this release we've pressed recently
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=3559903
Phil from Phono Press, Milan, Italy
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Nice one, Phil.
I took the picture disc enquiry to mean he wanted the 12" picture label to be solid black in which case, Mossy was right... Just give him black vinyl pressings with no labels, which as we have discussed can be done. This could be the first ever picture disc with perfect vinyl quality.
Or you could use PVC film without labels to give him picture disc quality and you can still charge him for printing solid black labels. As its solid black anyway, he won't know if you have printed labels or not.
I took the picture disc enquiry to mean he wanted the 12" picture label to be solid black in which case, Mossy was right... Just give him black vinyl pressings with no labels, which as we have discussed can be done. This could be the first ever picture disc with perfect vinyl quality.
Or you could use PVC film without labels to give him picture disc quality and you can still charge him for printing solid black labels. As its solid black anyway, he won't know if you have printed labels or not.
Lots of electrons back and forth are bothered here, over a querry by a dude who has no idea, simple
We get them all the time
To post them all up it would make a good read but!
A recent one, a gem:
Request: I only want 10 test pressings of 20 tracks at 5 minutes each on 7"
According to your prices listed that would be $35 in total
If you send me a bill I can pay it
When can I have them?
Can I get them in 3 days?
Answer: Did not even reply
About 5-10 a weeek of that kind of crap
Arghhhhh
Cheers
We get them all the time
To post them all up it would make a good read but!
A recent one, a gem:
Request: I only want 10 test pressings of 20 tracks at 5 minutes each on 7"
According to your prices listed that would be $35 in total
If you send me a bill I can pay it
When can I have them?
Can I get them in 3 days?
Answer: Did not even reply
About 5-10 a weeek of that kind of crap
Arghhhhh
Cheers
Chris
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Just a tech note to give a sense to this topic.
Have you ever noticed that the "black" in the paper is visually not the same "black" of the PVC?
It is a matter of different materials.
You can print 100% K and do two/three overprints, nothing to do, it will look a bit gray or blue when compared to the black PVC.
Probably one could treat the paper with carbon just like when printing black innersleeves, but in my view it would always look less black than the black PVC.
Not a big deal, but nowadays many customers ask to press one sided records with black labels in the back and they make a custom serigraph printing in the blank side.
Sometimes I think that it would be nicer to press the record with no label in the B side. Not a big deal, but when doing this, in most of presses the shape of the hole tends to "bend" to the side without hole, and this is not good. It is just like if someone would "suck" that hole from the side without label.
I have to test with the Lened, but I have to bypass the vacuum switches to do this
Have you ever noticed that the "black" in the paper is visually not the same "black" of the PVC?
It is a matter of different materials.
You can print 100% K and do two/three overprints, nothing to do, it will look a bit gray or blue when compared to the black PVC.
Probably one could treat the paper with carbon just like when printing black innersleeves, but in my view it would always look less black than the black PVC.
Not a big deal, but nowadays many customers ask to press one sided records with black labels in the back and they make a custom serigraph printing in the blank side.
Sometimes I think that it would be nicer to press the record with no label in the B side. Not a big deal, but when doing this, in most of presses the shape of the hole tends to "bend" to the side without hole, and this is not good. It is just like if someone would "suck" that hole from the side without label.
I have to test with the Lened, but I have to bypass the vacuum switches to do this
Phil from Phono Press, Milan, Italy
http://www.phonopress.it
http://www.phonopress.it
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Ah BTW Mike of course yes, if you put the PVC sheets you can avoid this issue, I mean you can put whatever you want, even no label in the back, and have this "glossy" finish over the black PVC and a perfect profile of the record. No problem. But PVC sheets - used for picturediscs - add a relevant hiss noise. Their advantage is to make the pictures behind them look nice and shiny, something which doesn't happen e.g. with extruded clear PVC. The compromise is just a little hiss noise.
Phil from Phono Press, Milan, Italy
http://www.phonopress.it
http://www.phonopress.it