Rough edges on pressings / Dull trim tool ?

Once you have cut a master laquer, you have metal stampers created and have records pressed from them. Discuss manufacturing here. (Record Matrix Electroforming- Plating, Vinyl Record Pressing.)

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Rough edges on pressings / Dull trim tool ?

Post: # 59635Unread post jjgolden
Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:39 pm

Hello,

Something I've noticed more and more lately from US pressing plants is the rough and sometimes sharp edges on new pressings.
I feel this doesn't do much for the aesthetics or sense of quality when a customer handles the record....
I guess I'm just pointing this out as an observation in the hopes that some attention can be given to this aspect of the manufacturing process.

Sincerely,
JJG

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Re: Rough edges on pressings / Dull trim tool ?

Post: # 59636Unread post andybee
Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:53 am

yes, it is a matter of the wear of the knive, and the adjustment (position of the knive)
a too sharp edge can cause seamsplits (destroyed spine when the record moves inside the sleeve)
best is a relativ thick edge, but for this, you need a sharp knive & well maintained machine, so
the innerhole doesn´t get bigger out during the edge cutting :)
I hope, this helps ;)

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Post: # 59644Unread post jjgolden
Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:04 pm

Thanks Andybee! I appreciate the info : )

Is there another tool that is used along with the knife edge to get it really smooth?
Any kind of mold forming or sanding that takes place. There are some pressings that are just perfectly shaped while others are pretty rough.

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Post: # 59650Unread post andybee
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:32 am

no, I think it depends mostly on the knife, and also on the press design...
As I worked mostly with toolex alpha, I made this experiences.
Also, the point, where the knife cuts the record is very important.
with the thick edge, you may have a rougher edge, for perfect feeling,
the cut must be done, where the record gets thinner, so idealy, you have
a round shape ;)

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Post: # 59655Unread post Aussie0zborn
Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:43 am

Good point, JJ. Being the first you notice about a pressing, it's quite off-putting.
American auto presses mostly have a rotary trimmer followed by a burnishing tool for a nice smooth edge.
I detect some laziness here.

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Post: # 59658Unread post jjgolden
Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:36 am

Thanks Oz!

Yea, seems like an area that's neglected by some plants.

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Post: # 59677Unread post gold
Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:53 pm

I remember that Lenid presses always had a sharper edge than SMT presses. I think it was the trim method. The labels on Lenid's were always great. On SMT the labels would tear more often.

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Post: # 59689Unread post jjgolden
Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:50 pm

Thanks Paul!

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