Why cut into plastic when you can cut into metal? BEER CANS

[flozki]

hello everybody.
forget neumann, kingston, vestax, vinylrecorder. plastic is out.
lets go one step further....

take a look

http://www.floka.com/lofi/dbmastering.html

cheers
f.

[cuttercollector]

Ha! It's all been done before
So in the interest of history, AFAIK the Songcatcher movie with the cylinders was fiction. Lomax started in America with big klunky Presto lathes run off 6V(!) mechanical inverters from his car batteries. Your scheme should work but they were never electrically cut or laterally cut. I think the crank both turned and moved the cylinder laterally, while the head stayed put. Same for playback. Then a spring wound motor replaced the crank. The cut was vertical, so called "hill and dale" (up and down with respect to the surface, not like lateral mono flat discs)
We your fellow lathe trolls respectfully request an mp3 of your experiment.
Please let us know when your wonderful talking machine is finished!

[motorino]

diferent beer diferent tone??? hehe
very good!!
the problem if you need a lot of test, you need a big party!!! callme when!!

[cementimental]

haha that's genius!!!!

[charlief64]

Brilliant !!!! I have lots of radio transcriptions, cut in the 30's on aluminum. Why not cylinders? We'll all be wating for the Sondek, solid acrylic, playback machine (with dental floss belts)

Charlie

[Steve E.]

that is one of the most amazing things I have seen. Direct to beer mastering. I can't wait to hear the results.

[Steve E.]

important question: Are you using empties or full cans?

[Steve E.]

Ha! It's all been done before
So in the interest of history, AFAIK the Songcatcher movie with the cylinders was fiction. Lomax started in America with big klunky Presto lathes run off 6V(!) mechanical inverters from his car batteries.

Lomax was not the first field recording guy. Certainly there WERE field recorders who used cylinders...I have some LPs of that stuff.

[harper]

Oh my!

HA!

[flozki]

okidoki...did some cuts...i changed the head to a grampian..more power.
i use old steel stylii. best for aluminum.

the cans are full...thats suposed to be the deal. i can cut someones speech, music and he gets the beer....a typical contract in music business...

i also manageed to playback that stuff. but my plyback-some kind of tangential tonearm is a little sticks. so i can only get one turn...

of course there is quite some surfacenoise. but the cut itself is loud and looks nice.

next step forward is to throw away the handcranker. i need a motor so i have stablerotation. then i think the quality is quite good. i hoope to provide some samples soon.

cheers flozki.

[cuttercollector]

As I said in reply to your first post, for both recording and playback I think the cylinder traverses laterally in the oldest designs and the record or reproduce head stays fixed. The reproduce head might have a little movement built in to account for surface irregularities. Think motorized fine pitch leadscrew rotating the cylinder, and causing it to move slowly in a lateral direction for groove spacing. Do the same for playback. I think for a machinist like you, that would be much easier than rotating the cylinder in place and moving the cutter head and the playback arm.

[Steve E.]

I'm dying to hear the results!! I hope you are still persuing this....it's the funniest/coolest thing I've seen in ages.

[Steve E.]

Since that link is dead....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bricolage-universel/6170818358/in/photostream/

[Steve E.]

For our archives...

[jesusfwrl]

Wow, that's awesome! I love the concept of direct-to-beer mastering! You can even have all-ages music with direct-to-soda mastering, or for something a bit heavier, direct-to-vodka mastering... I don't remember the country, but I have seen vodka-based cocktails sold in aluminum cans somewhere!

By the way, Tim (Cementimental), you again? Are you already cutting or about to? We keep on ending up on all the same forums! I even resorted to lathe trolling hoping you wouldn't find me here.... If I see you on the duck hunting forum too I'm going to move on to arctic exploration. If you also find that forum, I'll have run out of ideas!

[L.K.R.A]

If only copper and aluminium wasn't so expensive in this day n age, a lot of us would probably be embossing on copper or aluminium discs...

A great example of thinking outside the box... drinkable, disposable and recyclable cylinders (awesome )

It's fantastic to see the different mediums that people are experimenting with...

[opcode66]

Absolutely zero inner diameter loss...

[mossboss]

Hello Thomas
Cheers

[flozki]

well thanks for keeping it here.
try to repair once the link.after the beck byte it regains some interest.
too bad it was not possible to make fancy videos in 2006.haha.
neither beer companies nor scientology ever invested in my groundbreaking invention...
damn. still poor, deep in shit and still an adversion to beer....

i hope beck will send me once one of their recorded bottles...
with beck singing...

[audadvnc]

So if I'm gonna record a hipster band, do I absolutely need to use a PBR can, or will Dos Equis do in a pinch?