Who can help me with my VR T560 cutterhead?

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Re: Who can help me with my VR T560 cutterhead?

Post: # 39307Unread post sakuszi
Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:16 pm

I'm excited, it's certainly speakers are Boschmann, the coil has a diameter of 25mm, the rear of the speaker is threaded metal to screw the speaker, it was tweeters complete with bass, I think it is cheap, tomorrow let's get to work. I do not know how to fix the mounting knife, whether it is soldered tin?

http://www.amazon.de/Boschmann-MM-Hocht%C3%B6ner-Set-Zoll-Gunmetal/dp/B00DOPDT56
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Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:25 am

Hey there nice tweeters ! Good find !

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Post: # 39331Unread post inspector77
Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:19 pm

Hi Marc Thanks for the photos!
i´d like to see how the armature is hooked to the cutterhead, seems that there isn´t V spring at the end ¿? :shock:
Is incredible how that simple design can archive this amazing results!
Good luck with the repair work!!!!, please keep posting!

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Post: # 39335Unread post opcode66
Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:57 pm

The cutting stylus is held in via two methods. A locking set screw for a Presto Long Shank stylus. Or, a friction locking taper for a 320 stylus.
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Post: # 39339Unread post Snug Music
Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:05 am

marct wrote:
sakuszi wrote:
marct wrote:I think i'm the first person with this little surprise, but here are 30 pictures from the VR cutterhead while it's open 8)

I can not repair this tweeter, so i order two new car tweeters and then i'm gonna try to fix the cutterhead myself!

A few days ago i open the cutterhead from the Vinylrecorder, and after that i made 30 pictures.

This link from Wetransfer, is working until 30 december 2015, and please let me know what you think of the tweeters :)

And thanx Dimi for your tip, and i give it a go!

Merry Christmas and peace!

Marc

Link to Wetransfer: https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/4bb30f65c848a4c65c7e5ae6acf2fa2320151223204543/8e8688a35ba4329622c7c0aa7d724ba920151223204543/6930e4
Thank you very much for an explanation of what this head is, what mechanisms, cool pictures, but at the same time I am shocked that this is the speakers at 2 $ each and everything so nicely, beautifully recorded. I already burned 8 sets of speakers 15 Watt [a total of 16 pieces], I have no where to buy .. And here such a beautiful surprise, suffice car tweeters $ 4 set, a little glue, paper, wire and tin [unless if you are not I am wrong ..] and it's really beautiful record. Yours sincerely, all the best for Christmas!
It looks that the cones are made of paper, but it is plastic (pvc??)

hi,..thx for pictures

Yes, i don´t wonder, that Souri take this peace! :shock: :shock: :shock:
the Tweeters have great audiocurves, Freq. Resp.: 3.000 Hz- 30.000Hz... wow...amazing!

i never seen before souris tweeter open up,
but,..my suspicion was confirmed! smile 8)
he take this peace >>

BM AUDIO MM 6 TWEETER!!!

Max/RMS: 200W Max/ 60W RMS
Impedance: 4 Ohms
Freq. Resp.: 3.000 Hz- 30.000Hz
Sensitivity: 93 dB/W*m (SPL)

Durchmesser: 5cm Ø

http://www.rakuten.de/produkt/bm-audio-mm-6-hochtoener-25mm-1357432675.html

thx marc :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Post: # 39340Unread post Snug Music
Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:18 am

@ marcct...
have a question with regard to the driver. the cones are hollow inside or filled ??

thx Scotty :wink:
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Post: # 39341Unread post inspector77
Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:31 am

Hi again Marc, some questions:

This part is fixed or can blend ? how is connected?

mount_point.jpg

Seem the armature is connected to the head in two points
mount_point2.jpg

So is a design without "V Spring"


Snug Music i think the cones are hollow inside
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Post: # 39342Unread post Snug Music
Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:59 am

inspector77 wrote:Hi again Marc, some questions:

This part is fixed or can blend ? how is connected?

mount_point.jpg

Seem the armature is connected to the head in two points
mount_point2.jpg

So is a design without "V Spring"



Snug Music i think the cones are hollow inside


hey Inspector, I .. guess that is resin!
definitely looks the same as synthetic resin.

greetings Scotty :wink:
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Post: # 39344Unread post The Shank
Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:34 pm

http://www.myshank.com
skype : steven.myshank

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Post: # 39345Unread post aaron
Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:12 pm

How thick are the wires that come out of the cones and connect to the stylus holder? Can you tell what type of material it is?

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Post: # 39352Unread post Snug Music
Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:13 pm

aaron wrote:How thick are the wires that come out of the cones and connect to the stylus holder? Can you tell what type of material it is?

Hey Aaron, ..

when I look at the picture with the Stylus Holder, I think that the wire (brass wire) !! (since this is non-magnetic and solderable)) a diameter of 1 mm has !!! hihii ... smile ... ok .. Aaron, what are you thinking right now? Did you also desire to recreate the part ?? I yes, smile ... .. ok .. so lets do it. I have the driver (BOSCHMANN - MM 6 Tweeter) already ordered! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

greetings Scotty 8) :wink:

And Thx to my Shank...Yes,..thats Loctide! :oops: :mrgreen: 8) :wink:
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Post: # 39354Unread post dimi751
Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:31 pm

Hi

If you look at the blade runner post Todd is using
Sewing needle size 10.

Dimi

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Post: # 39356Unread post Snug Music
Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:44 pm

hi Dimi,..

Sewing Needles..thats work? :roll:
but i think Brass are better..or not?

ok,..must look at blade... 8) :wink:

thx Scotty 8)
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Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:04 pm

I use it. Good flexibility and stiffness. Stainless steel is better than brass for this case

Ciuens

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Post: # 39368Unread post inspector77
Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:12 am

Scooty take pictures of the whole process! :wink:

How do you think to recreate the rubber part in the top of the tweetter and the armature for the stylus?

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Post: # 39372Unread post Snug Music
Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:23 pm

[quote="inspector77"]Scooty take pictures of the whole

Ok,..i do
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Post: # 39373Unread post Snug Music
Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:25 pm

inspector77 wrote:Scooty take pictures of the whole process! :wink:

How do you think to recreate the rubber part in the top of the tweetter and the armature for the stylus?
Ok .. I'm sending you the pictures of the rebuild process ... the rubber cone, I will basically manufacture of fiberglass and that if everything is installed, pull over with silicone

Happy new year..

Greetings Scotty
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Post: # 39390Unread post marct
Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:14 am

Hello everybody, i wish you all a very happy new year and thanks for all the messages about the cutterhead! A good friend of mine (also Dutch) is busy with my cutterhead, and i think it is ready in 5 or 6 days ;) I saw a few questions here, but i don't have all the answers and i'm sorry for that. I'm a newbie with cutterheads, but i'm learning a lot from my good friend in The Netherlands. The cones are not filled, but hollow. If the cone is on the tweeter, you must fill it up with a little bit liquid silicone rubber.When i cut open the tweeter (carefully), i saw that rubber ring and that's the liquid silicone rubber. But one thing is very inportant: Before u use the silicone rubber, you must put some strong glue inside the hollow cone! You only need a little bit, and after that you put the hollow cone on the 25mm tweeter (see my picture) You have the best results with a HiFi titanium dome tweeter (neodym and ferrofluid) 120 watt (rms). Let it dry, and then start pouring the liquid rubber. We can start with the rubber in a few days, because the shop is closed till 4 januari.....But now i've another question: That good friend of mine, who is reparing my cutterhead is searching for a preamplifier without power amplifier (with Reverse RIAA, mono switching among 300--500Hz, possibly with compressor / limiter function) He know's about the Caruso preamp, but he is looking for a complete system. Is there a factory, who makes this preamplifier? Thank you all for reading, and have a good weekend! Marc
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Post: # 39392Unread post Snug Music
Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:47 am

Hey marc,..
Happy hew year 2016

The Black ring of tweeterholder us this peace a rubberring? How stifness are this peace? Rc-wheel ?

Tgx Scotty 8)
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Post: # 39393Unread post Snug Music
Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:17 am

marct wrote:But now i've another question: That good friend of mine, who is reparing my cutterhead is searching for a preamplifier without power amplifier (with Reverse RIAA, mono switching among 300--500Hz, possibly with compressor / limiter function) He know's about the Caruso preamp, but he is looking for a complete system. Is there a factory, who makes this preamplifier? Thank you all for reading, and have a good weekend! Marc
Marc, .. the Caruso preamplifier (you need 2 for stereo!) You get at vinylike.de (Flo) .. in Impresum is the number! get the v1.1 Caruso preamps.
If you have assembled these viewing categories, ask there to here or contact times to Todd Deep Groove Mastering (opcode 66) He has experience and builds you the complete parts together. Just ask me, .. Todd is quite peaceful .. smile :)
As I said, try it just once there ..
Greeting Scotty 8) :wink:
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