Starting a label
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Starting a label
well here is the first draft of my label
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does anybody even listen to reggae anymore
leave some feedback guys
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does anybody even listen to reggae anymore
Re: Starting a label
hehe... more than you would imagine...KeeLeh21 wrote: does anybody even listen to reggae anymore
about the label... looks like 80s style... nice!
maybe just an idea... get all your friends/anybody together who can spin the pencil and make a "drawing contest" ... then you pick the best!
Re: Starting a label
ha thanks for the feedback.
its actually a play on a popular soft drink in the states that came out of texas called "Big Red". just thought it would be clever
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Doesn't matter what you call your label... its what's in the grooves that counts and the vibe your label eventually creates.
Playing on another product is a waste of your creative time and exposes you to malicious lawsuits. Nobody is going to buy your product because of Big Red's success, but if you have major success Big Red will sue you claiming that your success is a result of using their brand's likeness. Be original!
How many releases have you got lined up? Some very succesful labels started by finding the artists first and then thinking of a name for the label later. Casablanca Records was one of them.
Good luck with the label.
Playing on another product is a waste of your creative time and exposes you to malicious lawsuits. Nobody is going to buy your product because of Big Red's success, but if you have major success Big Red will sue you claiming that your success is a result of using their brand's likeness. Be original!
How many releases have you got lined up? Some very succesful labels started by finding the artists first and then thinking of a name for the label later. Casablanca Records was one of them.
Good luck with the label.
and really man come on, how do you know i have not talked to certain people about a copyright infringement with this, nothing is wrong with it its not the same symbol, i happen to record my own music and music of friends its an ------- independent label dude! moderator or not get off the ---- high horse and come back down to earth dude in no way was your post helpful, you just came off ----------------------
I think Aussie was honestly trying to be helpful. If you have your vision, go for it. Nothing any of us has to say should deter you!
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Seriously its what in the grooves that counts. Once you put out some good records and your label gets a reputation for good music then your label becomes synonymous with good music and collectors will buy anything you put out (just dont ever let this type of record buyer down by putting out something you know is not up to your own personal standard).
Not everyone can put out one good record after another but if 90% of them are good your label reaches "cool" status and is trusted for good music. At this point, people buy it as soon as they see the label and without even listening to it. We used to press for an indie label that when they worked this out would release four titles at the same time - and all four titles sold in equal quantities.
You need to be known for good reggae - not for being that label that did a take on a soft drink. Forge yor own identity so your graphics remind people of your label and nothing else.
The Trolls are probably more interested in knowing who cut your first release, who plated it, who pressed more than what the label looks like. No offence was intended.
Thank you for changing your signature but I thought you could come up with something better than quoting my PM to you.
All the best with your label.
Not everyone can put out one good record after another but if 90% of them are good your label reaches "cool" status and is trusted for good music. At this point, people buy it as soon as they see the label and without even listening to it. We used to press for an indie label that when they worked this out would release four titles at the same time - and all four titles sold in equal quantities.
You need to be known for good reggae - not for being that label that did a take on a soft drink. Forge yor own identity so your graphics remind people of your label and nothing else.
The Trolls are probably more interested in knowing who cut your first release, who plated it, who pressed more than what the label looks like. No offence was intended.
Thank you for changing your signature but I thought you could come up with something better than quoting my PM to you.
All the best with your label.
well you should have put it that way to begin with. you came off pretty rude, and sorry for getting pissed. well its more than a "soft drink" spinoff it has quite a history in Texas and i just thought it would be clever for people to see it in a way they hadn't before, but anyways its just a small something me and friends thought off just thought people would find it interesting. and i think the signature is funny but if it bugs you i'll change it
To answer your question, does anybody even listen to reggae anymore?
I would have to say yes. I do mastering for several Reggae bands for CD and vinyl.
But perhaps the real question should be is anyone buying music.
Due to the fact the sheer volume of available new music that has made conversion of interested
listeners into actual revenue for the artist and record labels extremely difficult.
Compounding the issue is the diminished value of recorded music in the eyes of the fan.
The view by many that music (and content in general) should be free has now ushered in a need for fan building skills.
With some creative thinking, this could develop into several sources of revenue for your artists and label.
I do like logo, and is on target and keeping within a reggae theme.
Also, are you using the letters SATX in your logo?
Is this not somewhat similar to STAX records? The company in Memphis Tennessee?
I would have to say yes. I do mastering for several Reggae bands for CD and vinyl.
But perhaps the real question should be is anyone buying music.
Due to the fact the sheer volume of available new music that has made conversion of interested
listeners into actual revenue for the artist and record labels extremely difficult.
Compounding the issue is the diminished value of recorded music in the eyes of the fan.
The view by many that music (and content in general) should be free has now ushered in a need for fan building skills.
With some creative thinking, this could develop into several sources of revenue for your artists and label.
I do like logo, and is on target and keeping within a reggae theme.
Also, are you using the letters SATX in your logo?
Is this not somewhat similar to STAX records? The company in Memphis Tennessee?
Reggae Sells No doubt about that For one client we press 3-7 K x 7" records per week and its being going for a while like more than a year
Proof is there
12" Not so much about 3K a month
It seems the 7" format is preffered by the reggae fan
Revenue!
It seems that the music has being sold to countless of labels producers manufacturers promoters you name it
So copyright is a big issue as there are more than one person claiming rights bought from somene somewhere whenever with multiple issues of the same tracks by different labels and even names of artists
And it seems that is quite common in the scene
So here lies a problem which is hard to pin down for any re issues as well as what is claimed to be new work
A very carefull search is required as well as very good documentation if one is to take it on
The reggae scene seems to be littered with lawsuits for royalties more so than other genre on a pro rata basis
Just be aware of the issues and good luck with it And I would not be to worried about the label looking like something else so what
Cheers and best of luck
Proof is there
12" Not so much about 3K a month
It seems the 7" format is preffered by the reggae fan
Revenue!
It seems that the music has being sold to countless of labels producers manufacturers promoters you name it
So copyright is a big issue as there are more than one person claiming rights bought from somene somewhere whenever with multiple issues of the same tracks by different labels and even names of artists
And it seems that is quite common in the scene
So here lies a problem which is hard to pin down for any re issues as well as what is claimed to be new work
A very carefull search is required as well as very good documentation if one is to take it on
The reggae scene seems to be littered with lawsuits for royalties more so than other genre on a pro rata basis
Just be aware of the issues and good luck with it And I would not be to worried about the label looking like something else so what
Cheers and best of luck
Chris
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I listen to reggae too (alot of my friends too)
mossy, nice to hear reggae is selling in Australia. Here in Europe reggae vinyl prices are going up, because more and more people are jumping the DVS software bandwagon (or worse, laptop + plastic jogwheel controllers).
yes, 7" is THE reggae vinyl format, as andy can probably tell too
copyrights and reggae is a messy subject. I haven't had any real insight into this, but fact is, that jamaica used ancient british copyright laws until 1993 or so, only designed to return revenue to English composers that blatantly overlooked native jamaican music.
mossy, nice to hear reggae is selling in Australia. Here in Europe reggae vinyl prices are going up, because more and more people are jumping the DVS software bandwagon (or worse, laptop + plastic jogwheel controllers).
yes, 7" is THE reggae vinyl format, as andy can probably tell too
copyrights and reggae is a messy subject. I haven't had any real insight into this, but fact is, that jamaica used ancient british copyright laws until 1993 or so, only designed to return revenue to English composers that blatantly overlooked native jamaican music.
Re: SATX
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