Scam: Angulo aka Tangential Vinyl Disc Recorder C-4

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Re: Scam warning: Angulo Records

Unread postby jesusfwrl » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:47 am

An interesting observation is that machines and parts have definitely been shipped from Bolivia, Argentina, and Poland, so either business is going quite good for scammers nowadays, or the guy is quite wealthy.

Another possibility is that there are several people working together, but shipping this garbage half way around the globe hardly seems like a cost effective way of scamming someone.
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Re: Scam: Angulo aka Tangential Vinyl Disc Recorder C-4

Unread postby Steve E. » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:17 am

I just received an email from "John Tangential" claiming they are offering a legitimate product and that we are all slandering him because he is competition.

Can anyone who lives near him, and who knows lathes, meet him and do some legitimate tests?

Understand.... I don't believe him. But this should be easy enough to straighten out.
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Re: Scam: Angulo aka Tangential Vinyl Disc Recorder C-4

Unread postby yano » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:28 am

I have not found anyone who would like this machine.
so I did not dare to buy.......
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Re: Scam warning: Angulo Records

Unread postby Steve E. » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:28 am

jesusfwrl wrote:An interesting observation is that machines and parts have definitely been shipped from Bolivia, Argentina, and Poland, so either business is going quite good for scammers nowadays, or the guy is quite wealthy.

Another possibility is that there are several people working together, but shipping this garbage half way around the globe hardly seems like a cost effective way of scamming someone.


Now, wait a minute here.... has Angulo / Tangential shipped parts from Poland? We do not have definitive proof that the South American scam is the Joanna Polinska scam. So, again.... are you just talking about the two scams as a trend, or did I miss some data? Because that would cinch it.
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Re: Scam: Angulo aka Tangential Vinyl Disc Recorder C-4

Unread postby jesusfwrl » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:52 am

Steve,
There is no definite prove linking the scammers, that I am aware of. I was referring to the general scamming trend and Stevens suggestion, that the polish contraption shares similarities with the Angulo contraption.
If it is indeed the same person, it would be weird to have send things from places so far away from each other. This is the point I was trying to make.
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Re: Scam: Angulo aka Tangential Vinyl Disc Recorder C-4

Unread postby Steve E. » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:00 am

Got it!!
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Re: Scam: Angulo aka Tangential Vinyl Disc Recorder C-4

Unread postby janomusica » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:10 am

Obviously I think I was not the only one scammed by this person.
unfortunately I paid for this garbage and a lot of money, not only did he not send it to me, but I had to travel to his country (Bolivia) to look for him so as not to keep losing money.
the machine lasted two days and broke, (angulo records) obviously did not take charge and I blocked.
him sold also a chemical formula to erase the discs, that is nothing but nitrocellulose lacquer for floors. I never felt so cheated ... but I'm content to know that I'm not the only one. my lawyer says that being in another country makes a trial difficult, but do not lose the expectations ... very sad...
yes, I know, i am a fool....
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Re: Scam: Angulo aka Tangential Vinyl Disc Recorder C-4

Unread postby janomusica » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:24 am

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