Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

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Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 52483Unread post Ben
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:52 am

Hey Guys,
Hope you're all doing great :)

I have this issue since 2-3 days ago.... When I cut a blanks, there's a load of clicks and pops... but only when cutting and not on playback afterwards. If I take the stylus and drop it a little earlier no clicks. It's only when I'm monitoring while cutting?

Anyone has faced something similar? It just started to do that... very strange

Thanks everyone
Ben

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 52486Unread post sgreiner1011
Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:05 am

I'm not sure I understand....

So are you getting clicks and pops while cutting, but they do not exist when you play the record back on a turntable?

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by dropping the stylus a little early. Earlier than what? Do you mean dropping it to a lower depth when its in the head?

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 52488Unread post Ben
Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:09 am

Sorry for my bad explanation...

When I cut a disc and monitor while cutting.... there's loads of clicks and pops. If I take my playback just a little before in the song... those clicks and pops don't exists in the cut. It's only when my playback head follows the cut.

Also I should mention that when I remove my disc at the end of the side.... there's so much static ... it's pretty intense, I've tried talk powder but it doesn't do much

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 52490Unread post SueDenim
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:38 am

Are you using a decent anti-static spray, such as Staticide?

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 52501Unread post Ben
Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:39 am

I'm actually using Myshank antistatic wax... and it works pretty well for cutting... really smooth and the swarf is always picked up in the tube nicely.
I feel the static really comes from the interaction with the " steel precision plate " and the disc . It never happens during summer, but to hear the big clicks and pops while cutting... this is a first .. it never happened in 5 years.

I don't even know if all the clicks and pops is "static" related... because I still had that static thing the day before it started to do those weird pops and cliks

thanks

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 52502Unread post markrob
Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:58 am

Hi,

Try watching with the lights out. You might be able to see the flash of an arc from static buildup with the lights down very low. Another way to check: If you have an old AM radio, set that close to the lathe and tune to a blank area on the dial and see if you can hear the discharge through the radio speaker.

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Post: # 52503Unread post Ben
Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:26 pm

Hey Mark,
Hope you're doing great :)

Thanks a lot for the trick... Ill check that out and post my result.
That's very interesting !!

Ben

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Post: # 52508Unread post 2bitcomputer
Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:06 pm

Off topic but - tuning between stations on the AM radio in your car is interesting when you are driving with thunderstorms in the (near) distance. You see the lightning with your eyes and hear the static burst over the radio at the same time - the BOOM comes later. It's weirdly satisfying...

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Post: # 52522Unread post Ben
Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:13 am

I just checked.... and no signs of little flashes or anything.

It's very annoying... but at least it's not in the playback, I wonder if it's not related to little debris left in the groove after the cut.
maybe, maybe not. On the microscope I cannot see anything wrong

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Post: # 53330Unread post rubenr
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:13 pm

You have too much static, try to put more wax..., but one antistatic pistol.. For me is working, More pression in the diamant more static.

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 58256Unread post Discomo
Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:19 pm

Very old topic, but I like to reply that tics and pops can be a clock problem of your d/a converter / interface not communicating properly with your computer.
I had this problem once. Very difficult to track.

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 58257Unread post Ben
Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:36 pm

Totally, it's a possibility!
In my case it was static, during winter time, my place is very dry and it was causing clicks during playback but only when I was actually cutting and monitoring
Since i now live at the bottom of the ocean and transformed into a mermaid, there's no more problem with that.

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 58258Unread post Discomo
Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:10 pm

Ben wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:36 pm
Totally, it's a possibility!
In my case it was static, during winter time, my place is very dry and it was causing clicks during playback but only when I was actually cutting and monitoring
Since i now live at the bottom of the ocean and transformed into a mermaid, there's no more problem with that.
Underwater Vinyl Cutting.
A niche within a niche...

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 58279Unread post RedSpadeRobyn
Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:53 pm

Ahem... you’re a MER-MAN.

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 58291Unread post Discomo
Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 am

RedSpadeRobyn wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:53 pm
Ahem... you’re a MER-MAN.
Was also thinking that ;)
I have friends from Argentina who chuckle when someone puts a female article in front of a male noun, like La Hombre.
As if the subject has bended from gender :)

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Re: Clicks & Pops VR issue / not on playback

Post: # 58362Unread post RedSpadeRobyn
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:06 pm

Discomo wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 am
RedSpadeRobyn wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:53 pm
Ahem... you’re a MER-MAN.
Was also thinking that ;)
I have friends from Argentina who chuckle when someone puts a female article in front of a male noun, like La Hombre.
As if the subject has bended from gender :)
Haha I was firmly basing mine in Zoolander!

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