using 5 year old transco lacquers

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using 5 year old transco lacquers

Post: # 8822Unread post dietrich10
Tue May 11, 2010 7:41 am

anyone have experience using 5 yr old or so transco/apollo lacquers?
I have a box here that I hope not to waste. not much luck getting chip pickup right so far on a few attempts.

D
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Post: # 8823Unread post Simon
Tue May 11, 2010 11:23 am

Send them to me and I will use them m8

It is all about applying heat with lamps.

2 x 30w spots

Lazar temp gun

Run on the table for about 4 mins until it gets to about 26 to 30 degrees.

Pull one lamp away if it is getting to hot.

Watch the chip - if it balls up around the stylus it may be not enough heat or to much.

You will have to play. :wink:

Oh yes I use 50 year old ones and all is fine.

Have Fun....
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Post: # 8826Unread post cymbalism
Tue May 11, 2010 1:00 pm

hey d

i bought about 30 from a guy on ebay which were not in a box and i've been cutting on them fine, just use some heat and you'll be straight :)
all the best!
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Post: # 8827Unread post dietrich10
Tue May 11, 2010 1:05 pm

yeah i will have to find a day to get the system set for them.
hate to waste em!
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Post: # 8828Unread post subkontrabob
Tue May 11, 2010 6:20 pm

Simon wrote: Oh yes I use 50 year old ones and all is fine.
Today I've used 54 year old Master Sound System lacquers (12 inch) and Pyral masters (14inch, don't know the age).

Just a random lamp for heating, no lazer temp gun, no bells and whistles, works like a charm :)

chip gets sucked up perfectly, although it's a standard groove vintage head without stylus heating!

I'm a lucky man :)

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Post: # 8829Unread post emorritt
Tue May 11, 2010 6:35 pm

Any age should be OK and heating probably improves performance, as long as they're not leaching palmitic. If so, they may be too dry to cut. Over the weekend I pulled out an old box of Allied's I had from the late 70's, all of which had palmitic on their surfaces - cleaned them a bit, then did some test cuts on an old Federal Radio Recorder I'd just finished working on and the thread was very dry - like unconditioned hair. Probably pretty flammable as well.

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Post: # 8834Unread post Simon
Wed May 12, 2010 5:29 am

All good stuff
Happy to learn something new.
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Post: # 22282Unread post powerstrip
Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:16 am

Couple things to.say here

I had.a box of 16 inch audiodisc.shippid with my cutter and they all had a 'curdled' look about them. Stuck together, I pulled them.apart delicately. Some of the lacquer which was stuck together looks ' cuttable'

The other box of 25-1 red label audiodisc was included; they were more.well kept than the 16s. I pulled them apart so carefully, kept each one in its own plastic sleeve. After that, I cut on them well using the methods described above. But on a couple of the red labels, if you hold it to.the right angle, you see slight curdling.

Point is, if they are sealed nicely, they almost always come out clean as a whistle. Just look for that lacquer smell. If its dried up there will be no vintage smell

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