DinSync NC-V8 acoustic lathe

[spinnertownblanks]

Manual here:

https://shop.re-303.com/files/files/NC-V8%20manual%20v1.0.pdf

Apparently there is an issue with high pitched noise caused by the motor when in FF?

Definitely can’t complain for this price and availability compared to what else is available currently though, so could be a good platform to start out with and possibly upgrade some components if you have the engineering chops?

Thanks! I managed to read the manual just before the launch this morning, but decided not to pick up a machine from the first batch as the manual almost raised more questions than it answered. The motor noise on the wind ons when the motor is in FF would be a problem for us in theory, as we are quite often asked to have audio running in the wind ons especially on live show recordings. However, if the noise is barely noticeable I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be an issue.

We are currently working with two modified VR T560's but were (and still are) interested in the NC-V8 as a backup cutter and for offload when orders pile up. As you say, for its price and availability it seems lika a great machine, but with the lack of information around its performance at the moment I'm not sure how it would fit into our workflow. I'm very interested to learn more about it though!

I think the biggest issue you would run into is the fact that it has no suspension. You are used to using a VR which has a spring and oil dashpot for damping which is generally needed for diamond cutting. For embossing you don’t need this and simply apply lots of weight. But the V8 only has a counterweight and no suspension at all, so as we mentioned previously in this thread it isn’t really ideal for diamonds.

The head can sound great, there are V8’s out there and we have worked on them but one that we know that does sound good has a modified V8 as they added an Air Pot themselves. But if you use a Vinyl Recorder it’s a totally different machine, I wouldn’t try to compare them. Ned who built the V8 is great and he made it as a stereo upgrade for Vestax / Vanrock users, which it really is an upgrade for.

Hopefully Ned or Paul will chime in here soon as the manual is pretty rough, it doesn’t explain anything really and mentions ‘a lathe is a little more nuanced than a CD burner’ and you need to ‘self learn’…..

Ned is sound, made a cool machine but we are concerned a little about the marketing and lack of actual info around the suspension aspect of the lathe which would really define whether it is for cutting or embossing.

[Aether23]

I think the biggest issue you would run into is the fact that it has no suspension.

Yes, the lack of the oil dashpot or similar suspension was and is our main concern with the NC-V8, the motor noise less so I guess. I have the utmost respect for Ned, I have read the thread where he is discussing the development stage of the machine and it is an impressive accomplishment.

I share your concerns regarding the marketing, and I do wonder how Dinsync will handle the support in the long run. A lot of promises are made in the marketing regarding diamond longevity etc.

[Big Al]

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I think the biggest issue you would run into is the fact that it has no suspension.

Yes, the lack of the oil dashpot or similar suspension was and is our main concern with the NC-V8, the motor noise less so I guess. I have the utmost respect for Ned, I have read the thread where he is discussing the development stage of the machine and it is an impressive accomplishment.

I share your concerns regarding the marketing, and I do wonder how Dinsync will handle the support in the long run. A lot of promises are made in the marketing regarding diamond longevity etc.
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Could be an opportunity for someone with experience to offer an ‘upgrade’ package with suspension / dashpot, improved motor etc..
I think these will prove popular with the price and that you actually can buy one.

[trailerparkjesus]

Same as everyone else. Lack of dashpot and spring held me back from pulling the trigger. On top of the that to push the buttons you are directly touching the lathes most sensitive part with no dashpot. Maybe one could put a rubber coupling between the pitch motor and the screw to cut down on motor noise. For production use, this wouldn't be a good machine since you have to manually push the buttons directly on top of the machine for every little move. Once it is upgraded with midi control and a proper suspension for more money I am interested for sure!

Also, documentation does not mention how the head even drops. I don't see a lever, maybe that knob?

[spinnertownblanks]

Could be an opportunity for someone with experience to offer an ‘upgrade’ package with suspension / dashpot, improved motor etc..
I think these will prove popular with the price and that you actually can buy one.

Changing the motor and a full suspension system is a new lathe, that isn't feasible for something like this, i think just more transparency is key on what the machine has and can do. As @trailerparkjesus mentioned, the manual doesn't mention how to lower the cutterhead or how to set the head weight and groove depth, the fundamentals of cutting. Maybe Ned can give more clarification on the suspension? I noticed DinSync publicly saying there is 4 more releases this year, so flooding the market with 100 lathes without this info would be quite irresponsible.

[Nedelcu Constantin]

Hello,
I'm glad that our machine has caught the attention of this community.
Until now, I haven’t discussed it on this site because I don’t believe it would be fair to promote our product here — especially considering that this platform has a long-standing presence in the field, and some of its older or newer members are also trying to build their own businesses.

I understand there are some questions regarding the machine.
One of them concerns the support and transport mechanism of the cutting head. It is mounted on two 608 bearings, and the weight adjustment is done using a counterweight similar to those found on turntables. The stylus is raised and lowered using a lever, somewhat similar to the mechanism used on the Vestax VRX-2000.

As for the recording characteristics, the machine will be tested at MyShank in about two weeks, and at that time, all details will become available.
If you're wondering why we haven't done this earlier, the answer is simple: both we and those who have tested the machine so far are satisfied with the recording quality.
We aim to keep things as simple as possible.

[Retrosmith]

One big question i have is, are there any US distributors or do you HAVE to have it shipped from the UK? And what about the voltage? Is it US 110?

[Nedelcu Constantin]

Last week, I visited the headquarters of the French company Myshank to test the NC-V8 recorder.
The recording was done using a setup typically used for testing T560 machines, and playback was performed on a Neumann VMS 80. Different audio tracks were used during the test.
The result showed that the NC-V8 is comparable in audio spectrum to another machine that has been on the market for a longer time. The grooves are consistent and evenly spaced.
Another opinion, shared by several people present, was that the device is underrated in terms of its selling price.
Attached you will find photos from the test session.
Additionally, we have started a collaboration with the company Tokyo Dawn to create a preset for their Simulathe plugin or to develop dedicated software for the NC-V8.

@Retrosmith : We ship the units from Sweden. The recorder comes with a universal power supply (100–240V).

[Thelatheofus]

Nice ! Do you plan on selling the cutting heads alone ?

By the way, seeing that cutting head so close to the edge of the table gave me chills haha

[Nedelcu Constantin]

@Thelatheofus , sorry for the late reply , yes , there will be available cutting heads only , but let's talk about this in 4-5 weeks .

[Kossmo66]

16 of these machines have been sold so far. Are there any buyers here who can say something about this NC-V8?

[Alfred]

Hi at all,
I am an owner of one of Nedelcu's lathes.
I have one of the first versions, where the moving axis of the cutter head support is driven by a rubber band and mounted on a motor outside the lathe.
The head is the NC-V8, of course, which provides excellent results in embossing recording.
And if you are cutting disc with a diamond stylus, the recording sound is fantastic.
I can't ask for more than what I have, because I'm using the lathe recorder as a hobby, not as a professional.
It offers me the enormous pleasure of the wonderful world of the recording discs.
And if there's one thing I'm grateful for and take seriously, it's that over the years, Constantin always helped me and resolved any questions or problems I may have had...and there have been quite a few...
Costi, you're a great guy...

[zdenek]

Hi at all,
I am an owner of one of Nedelcu's lathes.
I have one of the first versions, where the moving axis of the cutter head support is driven by a rubber band and mounted on a motor outside the lathe.
The head is the NC-V8, of course, which provides excellent results in embossing recording.
And if you are cutting disc with a diamond stylus, the recording sound is fantastic.
I can't ask for more than what I have, because I'm using the lathe recorder as a hobby, not as a professional.
It offers me the enormous pleasure of the wonderful world of the recording discs.
And if there's one thing I'm grateful for and take seriously, it's that over the years, Constantin always helped me and resolved any questions or problems I may have had...and there have been quite a few...
Costi, you're a great guy...

It's great that such devices are already available!
Do you have a sample recording on YouTube with your machine?

Or would you rather keep it to yourself?
I would gladly buy such a machine, which has such great parameters as I see on the spectrum analyzer.
Finally someone did something good and it is on sale! :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHwIhgFPUow

[Ruslan1971]

hi I'm lookingfor a reliable lathe,
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[zdenek]

hi I'm lookingfor a reliable lathe,
rafilipelis@gmail.com

Two years ago I made such a primitive machine that records on CDs, DVDs, I sold it to a guy for $ 1000, because he saw it on YouTube. If you want I can make you one for $ 1000, which you will pay to the website The lathe secret trolls, you will only pay for shipping, from Europe to Israel it is about $ 100. Be careful of improvisations that are posted on the Internet, where digital sound is mixed with the noise of an old vinyl record, various people want to sell rarely well-functioning machines. I was convinced of this personally when I bought knives for $ 300 and they were supposed to be diamond and the jeweler said they were cut zircons. Always ask for a live recording on YouTube, if the seller refuses that he can't do it, it means that he has something behind his ears and is hiding from you. Watch my video before you decide to buy anything of that matter .[/img]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GXAlO4SilA

[TheVinylCountdown]

Sounds very interesting!

Has anyone got any feedback on how these stand up to regular short-run use? Is it for professional or limited to hobby use?

Hoping for more deep-dive reviews soon.

Has anyone reached 250hrs of diamond life yet?

[retrosonic]

Are there any updates on the dinsync,? Final price in usa dollars, shipping time, updated unit? Thank you.

[Big Al]

Last week, I visited the headquarters of the French company Myshank to test the NC-V8 recorder.
The recording was done using a setup typically used for testing T560 machines, and playback was performed on a Neumann VMS 80. Different audio tracks were used during the test.
The result showed that the NC-V8 is comparable in audio spectrum to another machine that has been on the market for a longer time. The grooves are consistent and evenly spaced.
Another opinion, shared by several people present, was that the device is underrated in terms of its selling price.
Attached you will find photos from the the session

Thank you for the information and photos from the session!
Would it be possible for you to share the audio too?

[Libertystreetvinyl]

Hey where’s the website so I can buy the vinyl cutter?

[CutR]

Hey where’s the website so I can buy the vinyl cutter?

https://shop.re-303.com/product/nc-v8-acoustic-lathe-batch-2/